Cantr II Discussion Forum

The details are all on the wiki. There is no functional difference between a cabin and a hold, but holds were designed so that a ship could only have one hold (of a type determined by the ship), while a ship can have multiple cabins.

Longboats don't get any? That's just cruel...

Marian wrote:Longboats don't get any? That's just cruel...

Surely that's an error... Please...

They're cheap and very popular. I think a big part of this was to promote wider use of the larger ships.

Bits of information Surly gave out in the IRC:

Buildings, extensions and other holds/cabins cannot be built in a hold or cabin.

The full smelting furnace, work bench, kiln, glass oven, alumina refiner and anvil cannot be built in holds or cabins.

Holds and cabins do not add cargo capacity to a ship; stuff inside a hold will add to the onboard weight of a ship, as does the hold itself.

Phalynx wrote:

Marian wrote:Longboats don't get any? That's just cruel...

Surely that's an error... Please...

No. It was decided by the RD that no boat that can dock to the land will get either cabins or holds. That includes darters and sloops as well as the much lamented longboats. Longboats are far too common anyway, we don't need to encourage them.

Grrrr..

Bloody Iron!

Longboats are far too common anyway, we don't need to encourage them.

I figured that was why, but still, I was all 'Woo I get a cabin!' *reads the wiki* 'Wait, no I don't...'

Also I think people are confusing longboats with Viking Longships - they are not the same thing.

A longboat is just an oared boat carried by a larger one - typically 3 or 4 rowing benches and maybe a single mast - some were a little larger but typically would have no cabins or holds.

See Long Boat for some pictures of real longboats

Not really enough room to build much of a cabin on these.

Chris Johnson wrote:Also I think people are confusing longboats with Viking Longships - they are not the same thing.

A longboat is just an oared boat carried by a larger one - typically 3 or 4 rowing benches and maybe a single mast - some were a little larger but typically would have no cabins or holds.

See Long Boat for some pictures of real longboats

Not really enough room to build much of a cabin on these.

People have been sailing across oceans and sea in those???

These Cantr folk are very brave, lol

Chris Johnson wrote:Also I think people are confusing longboats with Viking Longships - they are not the same thing.

A longboat is just an oared boat carried by a larger one - typically 3 or 4 rowing benches and maybe a single mast - some were a little larger but typically would have no cabins or holds.

See Long Boat for some pictures of real longboats

Not really enough room to build much of a cabin on these.

Hmmm I don't think its docking capabilites tie in with this at all.......

I've been thinking of them as those lifeboats from (that goddamn movie) Titanic. (After I got the Viking longship out of the system, that is.) Good to see I was right.
And I'd say a longship doesn't have much space for a cabin either.

On another note: If that's a longboat, what the fark does the dinghy look like? People can cross oceans in THOSE.

/Hellzon - Viking longvolvo.

I think Jos was referring to the description rather than the picture: it has a mast too apparently...

Did I say Jos?
I meant Chris... Sorry!

Solfius wrote:

Chris Johnson wrote:Also I think people are confusing longboats with Viking Longships - they are not the same thing.

A longboat is just an oared boat carried by a larger one - typically 3 or 4 rowing benches and maybe a single mast - some were a little larger but typically would have no cabins or holds.

See Long Boat for some pictures of real longboats

Not really enough room to build much of a cabin on these.

People have been sailing across oceans and sea in those???

These Cantr folk are very brave, lol

Not to drive the topic further off into pointless tangent, but didn't the polynesians find Hawaii by canoe? Talk about brave!

Does this mean that the person in the cabin are the only one to be able to steer the ship or is it as before when anyone could steer?