ANTI-MAFIA (Game over! Infiltrators win!)
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- Tangential
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*he sighs heavily*
Well.. then here's the breakdown.
Tangential claims Man Switcher
CF claims medic
Trex claims goon (do realize that Trex has said this earlier and everyone has had the opportunity to counterclaim this, but hasn't. No one has called him out, so I guess we can assume his claim is true?)
So that leaves the detective and the gravedigger... and of course the paladin, looter, and revolutionary/traitor.
I repeat, that leaves Bowser, Toon, Frenchfisher, mikki, and Sparkle unaccounted for. *he sighs, shaking his head* Detective, gravedigger.. obviously you two know who you are. You have a 75% chance of voting for an evil. But also realize that in the eyes of the infiltrators, they pretty much have a 50/50 shot of pinning you two correctly for your roles already.
Sparkle has voted for Bowser. Bowser has voted Frenchfisher. Frenchfisher has voted Toon, adamently. *he rolls his eyes* Looks like a train. *he exhales in frustration* This is so stupid. I hate my job.
Well.. then here's the breakdown.
Tangential claims Man Switcher
CF claims medic
Trex claims goon (do realize that Trex has said this earlier and everyone has had the opportunity to counterclaim this, but hasn't. No one has called him out, so I guess we can assume his claim is true?)
So that leaves the detective and the gravedigger... and of course the paladin, looter, and revolutionary/traitor.
I repeat, that leaves Bowser, Toon, Frenchfisher, mikki, and Sparkle unaccounted for. *he sighs, shaking his head* Detective, gravedigger.. obviously you two know who you are. You have a 75% chance of voting for an evil. But also realize that in the eyes of the infiltrators, they pretty much have a 50/50 shot of pinning you two correctly for your roles already.
Sparkle has voted for Bowser. Bowser has voted Frenchfisher. Frenchfisher has voted Toon, adamently. *he rolls his eyes* Looks like a train. *he exhales in frustration* This is so stupid. I hate my job.
- Tangential
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Well considering how Frenchfisher never take shis vote off toon, they are most likly the paladin/revoulationary people.
When you hope for something, you often believe in something. When you believe in something, you often have pride in it. Being proud often leads to a hating of some group.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
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*his face lights up* One of those three is the looter, and the person they are voting for they believe are the revoulaionary. If the revoulatioary dies before the paladin, then the looter gets godfather ablilities. It is crucial we lynch the right person tonight.
When you hope for something, you often believe in something. When you believe in something, you often have pride in it. Being proud often leads to a hating of some group.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
As you can see, the Jedi are hypocrites.
- Tangential
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Tangential, you said earlier that you have watched and noted peoples votes/actions/words carefully. What's your gut tell you? See any special reason I should move my vote off of Frenchfisher?
And I agree about the goon role being claimed with no counter claim makes the story believable.
And I agree about the goon role being claimed with no counter claim makes the story believable.
Homer wrote: "Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals ... except the weasel. "
- Tangential
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Sometimes my gut is wrong. But I will not say what I think yet because it will influence how the good and evil will act.
*he growls* I want an all reveal, but only by the people I call out one by one. It's not about being afraid of being bait. It's about trying to narrow down the three evils and choosing the looter to be lynched. For the people having the real roles, you're just as safe revealing them as not revealing them. If you reveal, the infiltrators will work on their attack strategy, while we can work out the best defense strategy. If you don't reveal, we won't have the best defense. Granted 3 of you will lie, but I want to see how it plays out. In my mind, I think I have all the roles matched with the people, but I just need confirmation.
With that being said, I want Frenchfisher to reveal first.
It is best you don't lie if you really are good. If you claim medic, man switcher, or goon now, I will think you evil. So basically, your choices are detective and gravedigger. If you're good and do not say your own role, the real person who has the role you claimed will think you evil. I also ask that if the real person does see someone claiming their own role, to refrain from calling them out and voting for them. You don't want them to know who you really are.
Those of you still uncertain about this reveal thing, think of it this way. the 2 evils know who each other are. That leaves 3 they do not know the roles of. 1 is one of their own that they might not know is one of them. If they really want to kill either the detective or gravedigger, they can take a shot in the dark and have a win/win situation since our defense will not know who to best keep safe.
*he growls* I want an all reveal, but only by the people I call out one by one. It's not about being afraid of being bait. It's about trying to narrow down the three evils and choosing the looter to be lynched. For the people having the real roles, you're just as safe revealing them as not revealing them. If you reveal, the infiltrators will work on their attack strategy, while we can work out the best defense strategy. If you don't reveal, we won't have the best defense. Granted 3 of you will lie, but I want to see how it plays out. In my mind, I think I have all the roles matched with the people, but I just need confirmation.
With that being said, I want Frenchfisher to reveal first.
It is best you don't lie if you really are good. If you claim medic, man switcher, or goon now, I will think you evil. So basically, your choices are detective and gravedigger. If you're good and do not say your own role, the real person who has the role you claimed will think you evil. I also ask that if the real person does see someone claiming their own role, to refrain from calling them out and voting for them. You don't want them to know who you really are.
Those of you still uncertain about this reveal thing, think of it this way. the 2 evils know who each other are. That leaves 3 they do not know the roles of. 1 is one of their own that they might not know is one of them. If they really want to kill either the detective or gravedigger, they can take a shot in the dark and have a win/win situation since our defense will not know who to best keep safe.
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*sits down closely next to Sparkle and puts his arm around her*
Thanks. But... I think Frenchfisher, Toon, and Bowser may be townies. In my opinion... Frenchfisher a paladin, toon a traitor, and bowser mabe a looter. At least, I think. Though of course I may be wrong and Mikki and Sparkle may be townies. *smiles faintly looking at Sparkle* I sure hope not though.
Thanks. But... I think Frenchfisher, Toon, and Bowser may be townies. In my opinion... Frenchfisher a paladin, toon a traitor, and bowser mabe a looter. At least, I think. Though of course I may be wrong and Mikki and Sparkle may be townies. *smiles faintly looking at Sparkle* I sure hope not though.
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*he stares at Tangential* You really don't think things through, don't ya? Ya nitwit, if we all reveal who we is, we can't plan our defense without all the infiltrators knowin', either! It's not like you, or even us defenders, can go off into some secret room and gossip about strategy without them hearin' us.
Say both of us Mafia types, whoever we is, tell the truth. Then the townies will better know which of us to target. And because we don't know what their criteria are for choosin' which of us to kill, we got more people to think about protectin'!
Look at it this way. The townies are sizin' everyone up right now. They know, without a doubt, the roles of you, CantrFreak, and trexdino, assumin' none of you are lyin'. Me, the other member of the Family, and a third guy are people they don't know about. So, putting out of play the medic, they got a 100% chance of killin' the medic, 100% chance of killin' the person switcher, 100% chance of killin' of the goon (like that'd be helpful), should they choose to target any of youse. If they pick one of us three, they've got a one in three chance of putting away the person in the group they want to kill most, and a two in three chance of doing away with someone they would less have preferred to have killed. Or, look at it this way: they only got an 83% chance of killin' someone they want to go about killin' (cuz two of us are good, and one of us has a 50-50 chance for bein' the revolutionary or traitor). If you was the Mafia, who'd you go after? The 100% chance, of course. No reason to possibly kill someone who's your ally when you know for a certainty who should be killed off.
This uncertainty gives us more of a chance to protect ourselves, because the people they'll target will be affected by that uncertainty. Now, this don't mean I won't go about revealin' my role sometime, maybe even later this night. I'm just askin' you to think a little bit more about what you're doin'.
Besides, I'm more interested to see what toon has to say. It oughtta be a laugh.
Say both of us Mafia types, whoever we is, tell the truth. Then the townies will better know which of us to target. And because we don't know what their criteria are for choosin' which of us to kill, we got more people to think about protectin'!
Look at it this way. The townies are sizin' everyone up right now. They know, without a doubt, the roles of you, CantrFreak, and trexdino, assumin' none of you are lyin'. Me, the other member of the Family, and a third guy are people they don't know about. So, putting out of play the medic, they got a 100% chance of killin' the medic, 100% chance of killin' the person switcher, 100% chance of killin' of the goon (like that'd be helpful), should they choose to target any of youse. If they pick one of us three, they've got a one in three chance of putting away the person in the group they want to kill most, and a two in three chance of doing away with someone they would less have preferred to have killed. Or, look at it this way: they only got an 83% chance of killin' someone they want to go about killin' (cuz two of us are good, and one of us has a 50-50 chance for bein' the revolutionary or traitor). If you was the Mafia, who'd you go after? The 100% chance, of course. No reason to possibly kill someone who's your ally when you know for a certainty who should be killed off.
This uncertainty gives us more of a chance to protect ourselves, because the people they'll target will be affected by that uncertainty. Now, this don't mean I won't go about revealin' my role sometime, maybe even later this night. I'm just askin' you to think a little bit more about what you're doin'.
Besides, I'm more interested to see what toon has to say. It oughtta be a laugh.
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