Zombies!! PART 2!

[Nakranoth]

unvote Bowser

Damn it you two, do you not understand the numbers we're up against here? The doctor can't protect the priest without knowing who the priest is, and no heroes can protect either without who they are. If zombies know who those people are, but so do we, then they stay alive gaurenteed. Mind you I think the doctor may be able to keep the priest alive for a night without anyone knowing who they are, and as such should probably keep their heads lower then what AoM says... which means that all we find out is heroes and priest. But still, that puts us more on level grounds with what the zombies know.

[formerly known as hf]

AoM's logic is difficult to flaw.

One problem, it requires the priest and the Doc to resign themselves to their fates... And we're only human...

The medic, the docotr amongst us should stand forward first. The priest should follow straight after...

[Racetyme]

I don't know about this plan, but I guess I don't really have a choice. All it takes is one person not voting for that sun not to set. I'm sticking with Leo until he explains himself, or if he turns out to be the doc or the priest, assuming they step forward.

[AoM]

OOC: You see, this is the problem...

The game rules are defined thusly: If you're on the GOOD team, you DON'T need to be ALIVE at the end of the game to win. 99% of the time, the SEER role dies in order to give the village the valueable information that they need to win.

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IC: Okay, if not everyone can deal with my plan, then howabout this: The Priest (Seer) comes out. Everyone else (Doc, Heroes, Mother with Bazooka) stays hidden.

That way the real Doc and the Heros can stay hidden and protect the Priest. And from the Priest's views, we figure out a safe list.

That way, we don't make the mistake of lynching someone that perhaps the Priest has already viewed.

So Priest, I'm tellin' ya. You need to come out. The Doc and any heroes will protect you. Tell us your views thus far.

[AoM]

AoM's logic is difficult to flaw.

One problem, it requires the priest and the Doc to resign themselves to their fates... And we're only human...

The medic, the docotr amongst us should stand forward first. The priest should follow straight after...

Nah, wrong order. Let the Priest come forward first. The Doc shouldn't reveal immediately afterwords either, just in case there's a counter seer claim.

For those of you unwilling to unvote, I have to ask this very fundamental question: Why?

How does taking more time to analyze and get people to talk harm the good team? The only ones that should be frustrated by it are the Zombies and other aux-evils.

[Bowser]

I highly doubt we can control the sunset... but I didn't believe in Zombies a few days ago either.

unvote Leo

[AoM]

Priest, anytime you want to come forward, the good soldiers can start taking control of their own destiny.

[deadboy]

*He gives a half-baked shrug* Don't thinlk I trust you any more, or that my votes not goin' straight back on you after this is done, or that I think your idea is any better. I mean, what's to stop two people claiming to be the priest? We couldn't know the difference between them straight away, and the zombies could just kill the one of them they know isn't their own. Then we're as good as dead

Unvote AoM

[formerly known as hf]

*he plays with his rifle for a moment*

Ok then... I would be your resident seer...

I wouldn't have done this, were I not already aware that AoM is on the side of the righteous... He is one of the good amongst us...

I can only hope that any amongst you who can protect me, do so this night...

As for my vote, it remains with Leo, but is open to change...

[deadboy]

Anyone else fancy themselves a seer?

[AoM]

*spits*

Hell.

Well, it doesn't help me none, but I suppose it's just as well.

Okay then, we got a claim. HF is claiming Seer (Priest).

If there is NO COUNTERCLAIM, he must be believed. (And ipso-de-facto, he ends up clearing me.)

If there is a counterclaim, don't worry. *chomps down on his cigar* I'll know what to do.

So, barring counterclaim we got this:

Cleared:
HF
AoM

Uncleared:

deadboy
Bowser
Racetyme
Nakranoth
Pie
Leo
Sparkle

Now I want the Doc to be protecting HF tonight. No matter what. If there's a hero out there who wants to preserve the safelist, they can feel free to protect me, but it's their choice. I'm likely going to die tonight, but I'm okay with that, because my death isn't as bad as one of our specials going under. Keeps the coroner safe for another day, too.

I'm going to put my hunches based on this new information in a separate post.

[AoM]

Okay, the following is just speculation, but I think it's worthwhile... (it's OOC because there's no way to make this out-of-theme analysis work well)

Sparkle is likely GOOD. At worst, she's the traitor role. For her to be a necromancer doesn't make sense, because she would be a day behind in getting a chance to seer view (a now defunct power), which would be unfair to her if she were the necro. She's also certainly not a Zombie because a) allowing Zombies to be hidden for day one in a game where their parity is key would just be cruel and unusual (to the GOOD team that needs to find them) and b) because this rule-set allows for her to be turned into a zombie anyway later on in the game.

So at worst she's the traitor, which means that we don't have to kill her anyway to win. Our victory is predicated on Zombie finding and killing. So our Seer shouldn't bother with her.


Nakranoth has been sounding good to me. At least he's acknowledged that the village's only advantage over the Zombies is our early numbers. And our only hope is in coordinating those superior numbers into hitting the zombies. That takes time, not hasty decision making. So Nakranoth gets a slight nod from me.

Bowser I have little solid read on yet. He's either a good soldier or lay-low zombie.

deadboy has been obstinant, but at least he's been talkative. On the other hand, he was pushing for a quick decision today. A bad sign. 75% zombie, here.

Leo. Mostly silent throughout this entire day. I'd like for him to speak up more. If I had voted, he would have been doomed today, which makes me feel as though the Zombies were fine with the vote being on him. But his silence is still frustrating. Wake up, Leo. Wake up.

Pie is looking evil to me. Low posting, though he does that from time to time. But the few posts he does have have been quick, one-sentence votes. If I were going to vote someone out right now, it'd be Pie.

Racetyme, like bowser, is one of those middle-of-the-road, could go either way in my eyes types. Possibly a good viewing choice. Him or bowser at least.

HF is cleared as our seer, unless someone else wants to come forward.

As long as HF goes unchallenged, I'm clear too.

When we get to voting someone, we need to do it slowly. Give the person time to roleclaim if they want to.

[Sparkle]

*turns to Aom* So soldier, now that your brain seems to be ticking and your not aiming your gun down my throat I guess I'll stick around a little longer to see the outcome of your suspicions. I need to get to know you all a little better so I am no good on giving my opinions just yet. However, one wrong move *she stares at everyone* and I will recognize the bastard that was after me.

[Racetyme]

I don't much like having the seer out in the open. The doctor can protect him, true, but then again, that means they have free reign over the rest of us. I don't much fancy being dead myself, no matter who wins this fight. Its too late for me to do anything about it though. Leo, if you don't speak, I'm leaving my vote. You were too suspicious earlier, and with nothing said in explanation. (OOC: And you have been active in other parts of the forum, so quit avoiding us.)

[Pie]

I'm very much inclined to leave my vote also. AoM, you're just far to presumptuous. Tricking people, manipulating words and the like, voting for people for no reason, and trying to cover it up by telling everyone to stop voting. But... you're right.

unvote AoM

And your also right about telling our roles. It'll even the ground, so to speak, and help us organize everything better. I'm the hero.

But how him being who he says he is clearing you... it doesn't quite make sence for me..