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Log cutting and shaving times

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:40 am
by AngelSpice
2 days to cut and shave a small log
0.5 days for a medium log and
1 day for a large log

Doesn't make any sense to me. All 3 need the same tools.

Re: Log cutting and shaving times

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:15 am
by Chris Johnson
AngelSpice wrote:2 days to cut and shave a small log
0.5 days for a medium log and
1 day for a large log

Doesn't make any sense to me. All 3 need the same tools.


No they don't require the same tools

A lathe is required to produce a medium log in 0.5 days and 1 day for a large log.

Without a lathe you can produce a small log in 2 days, with a lathe you can produce it in 0.5 days (same time but haf the resources of the medium log) , you also don't require the peavey and drawknife under those circumstances.

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:11 pm
by Agar
Neither the Wiki nor any information in game mentions the need of a machine to make a log.

From what I understand here, please correct me if it's wrong, there's option A: use a peavey and a drawknife to turn timber into a log; and option B: use a lathe to turn timber into a log. Is that how it goes?

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:45 pm
by Chris Johnson
Agar wrote:Neither the Wiki nor any information in game mentions the need of a machine to make a log.

From what I understand here, please correct me if it's wrong, there's option A: use a peavey and a drawknife to turn timber into a log; and option B: use a lathe to turn timber into a log. Is that how it goes?

Almost ... but not quite - shaving horses are required for the tooled medium and large versions

Exact specification is
    1) Shaving and cutting a large log raws:timber>500;days:1;tools:peavey,drawknife + shaving horse
    2) Shaving and cutting a large log raws:timber>500;days:0.5 + lathe
    3) Shaving and cutting a medium log raws:timber>250;days:1;tools:peavey,drawknife + shaving horse
    4) Shaving and cutting a medium log raws:timber>250;days:0.5 + lathe
    5) Shaving and cutting a small log raws:timber>125;days:2;tools:peavey,drawknife
    6) Shaving and cutting a small log raws:timber>125;days:0.5 + lathe

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:27 pm
by Chris Johnson
Machine requirements for object manufacture are now displayed on the build information page for each object.

An implementation of a long overdue feature (though not to my knowledge on any ProgD to do list)

So, for example, the first medium log build information now displays

Object: medium log

Days needed: 1
Raw materials needed: 250 grams of timber
Objects:
Tools needed: peavey
drawknife
Machines needed: shaving horse

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:07 pm
by Hellzon
Swell! I was wondering why one of the logs were consistently easier to make. (And noted this in the wiki, to calm confused newbs.) :)

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:40 pm
by T-shirt
To make a lathe you will need a shaving horse and all the tools needed to make logs with a shaving horse.

There is little need to manufacture a lathe unless you have plans to make huge amounts of logs. The cost of a lathe seldomly outweigh the reduction in manufaturing time for logs.

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:22 am
by dinallt
The wiki entry for Logs says

Logs are believed to be either deimplemented or in the process of being deimplemented from Cantr.

I presume this is incorrect

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:32 am
by Chris Johnson
dinallt wrote:The wiki entry for Logs says

Logs are believed to be either deimplemented or in the process of being deimplemented from Cantr.

I presume this is incorrect


Strictly speaking it is correct - though not very helpful . Logs were removed but Small logs, Medium Logs and Large Logs were put in their place - The Wiki should really say that.