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The Lighthouse project in Doryiskom
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:03 am
by SparkyPlug
Okay, the lighthouse project in Doryiskom dates back to before 600. And it requires glass. I have 200g of window glass, just as modern lighthouses require. But the window glass won't replace the glass...
Can somebody either:
i)update the project so it requires window glass, or
ii) turn 200g of my window glass into old glass, or
iii) tell me if there is still a way to make normal standard glass as required for the project.
Thanks in advance...
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:52 am
by The Industriallist
Ah, such a beautiful thing...
You see, I asked about this a while back...and I got that for the old lighhouse projects to be finished, you have to obtain the old glass made before glass was changed. It can't be made anymore by any means, but there is a bit to be found.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:09 am
by SekoETC
I know one place that has glass. But on the wrong island.
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:46 pm
by SparkyPlug
The Industriallist wrote:you have to obtain the old glass made before glass was changed. It can't be made anymore by any means, but there is a bit to be found.
That is, quite frankly, ridiculous. Can the project be cancelled then? Because I cannot build another lighthouse, as "the location already has its maximum number of this object". I happily start again, if that is what Prog want...
Which is completely stupid. Doryiskom doesn't get a lighthouse because programming changed the name of glass without thinking of the consequences? That is utterly stupid.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:24 am
by Slowness_Incarnate
This is so terrible...

Isn't there some way to fix the problem? It's not exactly fair. When one of my characters "lost" a clothing item because it was deleted, I was able to report the error and get a replacement of the item as another garment.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:38 am
by jeslange
The Programming Department didn't change the glass, so you're barking up the wrong tree. I changed it. The newer version of glass is harder to make, so if I left it so that machines could make both kinds to ensure that existing projects which would require glass could be completed, nobody would choose to use the newer type of glass.
There is a solution which doesn't require programming, but it'll need to be used only by people with a char who intends to make the glass to finish the projects. These people can contact me by PMs and we'll go from there.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:58 am
by The Industriallist
I was told that, unlike random clothing disapperance like that, this is the deliberately chosen solution to the problem.
I'm not too sure I think it's a sane solution...I'm guessing they didn't want to make existing glass useless, or promote it into a more valuable material.
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:19 am
by SparkyPlug
I have the glass to finish the project. 225g of glass in fact, so I have a little spare.
But it is window glass (which is what modern lighthouses require). And I have absolutely no idea how to make normal glass if it is still around...
I'll just get that PM done I suppose...
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:45 am
by jeslange
All lighthouse projects which were begun before the change should now require window glass like new projects do. If someone sees a project that doesn't, please post it's location here.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:36 pm
by mortaine
I realize the answer is probably "find out in game," but:
Certain items with glass do not require window glass. Is that something buggy, or is it still possible to make ordinary "glass"?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:09 pm
by Surly
For instance the glass bead necklace thing...
And no, there isn't a way. Not unless they created a new way to make straight glass.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:11 pm
by Jos Elkink
Can you mail the types of those projects to me, in private? (no PM please

...)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:38 pm
by mortaine
Sent the ones I know about.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:44 pm
by The Sociologist
So are you saying that nobody can make spectacles and suchlike any more?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:49 pm
by The Industriallist
The Sociologist wrote:So are you saying that nobody can make spectacles and suchlike any more?
Not quite...there's a great deal of old glass lying around some places, which is what the spectacles appear to need. But there's no way to make more of it, so you can't make them from scratch. At least, not until they get switched to something new.