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Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:05 am
by Spider
"Pd issues are not to be discussed on open forums. Locking this thread"
Question: I thought it was okay if the player wanted to talk about it, was I wrong??
I was just wondering this.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:19 am
by faolan
I'm seconding that wonder. Maybe they don't want all players to know about some issues if they haven't been resolved?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:20 pm
by Doug R.
No, it's not alright for the player to discuss it. It's not fair to the PD, who aren't allowed to comment publicly. Allowing players to discuss it gives them a soapbox from which to air anything they want to say, factual or not, that the PD can neither clarify nor dispute.
When I was an admin in another game, our initial policy was that if players wanted to air their dirty laundry in public, that then gave us the right to humiliate them in public with the facts. However, the Cantr staff is a bit more respectful than that, even to players that do not in any way deserve that respect.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:16 pm
by marol
Even if we want to humiliate the person with the facts, not all facts should be revealed. PD has its own methods, tools and ways of detecting CR breaches, which should stay in shadow. In example we can milk ***** IM conversation - if players would know that, they would give up *IM and start to use other messengers that we don't controll.
EDIT by CJ - removed reference to Yahoo ... we don't want that to get out
Re: Question
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:52 pm
by Wolf
Spider wrote:"Pd issues are not to be discussed on open forums. Locking this thread"
Question: I thought it was okay if the player wanted to talk about it, was I wrong??
I was just wondering this.
Beyond what's already mentioned, there's also the factor of someone being able to use the forum to taint evidence or to try and milk sympathy by convincing others he did nothing wrong.
Not to mention, as PD already said, they have ways of investigating things that should be kept out of the public eye.
If a player uses the forum to give away sensitive information about how PD investigates things, next thing you know, people start cheating because they know of ways to avoid those investigations, or worse... they don't like one of your chars, they look for ways to make it look like the player behind the char that they don't like is doing something bad.
Those might be some extreme examples, but yeah, that's what would eventually happen.
It's not too different from when the police is doing an investigation, or if there is a major court case, where those involved are not at liberty to openly throw around details.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:27 pm
by tiddy ogg
Maybe I shouldn't say this, but that's exactly right. The accounts given in these public forums seem entirely different to the picture apparent in the PD forums.
But, hopefully all this will shortly be sorted out. It's well within the capacity of the players involved to do so.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:20 pm
by rconley
All of that aside, opening conversation to a current case specifically could very well bring about current details and events up for discussion on the forums. Events and details players should not know about at the time. Discussion will start, people will start discussing specifics in the case....not allowed.