Cantr II Discussion Forum

Two things- one's a complaint really.
If there's a stronger than average, and weaker than average, why the heck isn't there an average?


Second thing: Can you get stronger if you are weaker than average, and could someone give me an estimate of how long this would take? Like, a years' worth of hitting someone, or working, etc?

I can answer the first thing. There is!

There ARE average people. I have one.

notsure

Physical strength can be trained.

notsure wrote:There ARE average people. I have one.

notsure

Okay! Cool! Thanks. I haven't seen a single one out of.. some 100 or so characters.

Sho wrote:Physical strength can be trained.

Hmm.. thanks.. but it must obviously take ages? How long, and how?

you can train it by fighting or hunting.

Is the average truly an average of all people or some static value that was in the middle of the range when strengths were initially personalised? Since logically the medium should grow as the strengths increase but never decrease, and newspawns are stronger and stronger year by year - or are they?

Medium can decrease - characters die and another characters spawn. In fact average strength value should be quite related with average life expectancy.

Sho wrote:Physical strength can be trained.

Nosajimiki wrote:you can train it by fighting or hunting.

Lies.

I am highly suspecting strength was made visible to debug it.

I have a character who has been hunting daily for 30 years and I am "weaker than average". I've trained my hunting skill up from being awkward to being an expert, so how is it my strength is still listed so low? Does it increment at a lower rate, or simply not from hunting?

Strength does improve through hunting but at a slower rate than hunting skill - There is no problem with the implementation

Strength was made visible because of the change in weapon design - so that players would be able to choose the most appropriate weapon for their characters.

The average is a set point - not an average of people in the vicinity

Also with regards inheritence of strength - Characters pass on the base level of strength (the genetic component) to newspawns not the higher trained level. Over time, (unless high strength really does become a radical survial trait) strength levels of new spwans will tend towards the fixed point average.

EDIT moved to General Support

Agar wrote:

Sho wrote:I have a character who has been hunting daily for 30 years and I am "weaker than average". I've trained my hunting skill up from being awkward to being an expert, so how is it my strength is still listed so low? Does it increment at a lower rate, or simply not from hunting?

At least it's not much weaker than average. You may have started with the world's weakest character and trained up to just a bit weaker than average.

Chris, could we get statistics on how many characters are much weaker than avg and how many are only weaker? This way people could see they're not alone.

Current levels as below



Starting points (i.e. genetic base) distribution is



Which shows that strength does improve over time

Chris Johnson wrote:Which shows that strength does improve over time

Not true. I don't argue that strength improves, but this does not prove it.

You could also conclude that low strength comes with a suicidal tendency.
(or that characters with low physical strength have a lower life expectancy in general)

True - if you are speaking of an individual - my observation could have been about the population ... but it wasn't so point taken .