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I thought blocking and attacking were the same skill?
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:40 pm
by SekoETC
1748-0.26: You novicely hurt Jay using a waster, who loses 0 percent strength.
1748-0.26: Jay novicely hurts you using a waster. You lose 0 percent strength. You awkwardly saved 9 percent using your iron shield.
Or does this mean I gained a level in the middle of the attack, and it counts blocking before the attacking? Edit: And yes, it's a case of hitting oneself, so there are no two separate characters, so that you know.
Edit2: The list of skills still says awkward. Is this a bug? A rounding thing?
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:36 pm
by Phalynx
Perhaps this is something to do with the changes in weapons that were revealed in the discussion board?
Perhaps your character is not strong enough to wield an iron sword? Perhaps you character particulaty suits a waster?
Other wise congrats on levelling.. for who can tell?
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:13 pm
by SekoETC
Yeah, turned out he's only weaker than average, not much weaker. That might be the thing.
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:36 pm
by Chris Johnson
It's not a bug - its because you are attacking yourself
To allow suicide, characters who hit themselves always manage to attack a level of at least novice skill level regardless of their actual fighting skill, strength or tiredness , their defense if they use a shield is at their normal fighting skill
(Their tiredness and strength also have a minimum equivalent to a novice fighting skill as well)
This only applies if you hit yourself
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:11 am
by Phalynx
Ermmm...
So let me get this straight.
I have an awkward fighter...
To test my fighting skill I punch myself.
As this is something I would likely do soon after I spawn I do not posess a shield nor see a shield skill. So I would see novicely (or more) but my skill list would show awkwardly?
What would others see?
And if I use a slap which is essentially not skill based, and does not show other people or myself the skill, why do I get a fighting skill in my list??

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:35 am
by SekoETC
Phalynx wrote:I have an awkward fighter...
To test my fighting skill I punch myself.
As this is something I would likely do soon after I spawn I do not posess a shield nor see a shield skill. So I would see novicely (or more) but my skill list would show awkwardly?
What would others see?
They would see yet another ****ing idiot who cares more about stats than social aspects. ...How about for once waiting for a situation that actually
requires the use of violence rather than smacking yourself like a complete idiot? Hell, how many people in real life know their "fighting skill"? - At least I don't.[/rant]
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:38 am
by Phalynx
SekoETC wrote:
They would see yet another ****ing idiot who cares more about stats than social aspects. ...How about for once waiting for a situation that actually requires the use of violence rather than smacking yourself like a complete idiot? Hell, how many people in real life know their "fighting skill"? - At least I don't.[/rant]
Because in the real world I would train and make sure I was capable before I started any trouble at all. And my characters do the same in their cantr way.
Besides this isn't the place for your flames... go to general discussion for that.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:00 pm
by sanchez
Is it the case that the fighting skill is also displayed for a newspawn after an attempted drag?
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:01 pm
by Chris Johnson
Yes and strength
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:37 pm
by SekoETC
What, strength isn't visible straight off the bat? It only appears after you use it?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:50 pm
by Chris Johnson
Sorry my mistake - it is viewable from spawning - but now strength is only visible when looking at your own character - Viewing the strength of others has been turned off