Gas drilling rig

Out-of-character discussion forum for players of Cantr II to discuss new ideas for the development of the Cantr II game.

Moderators: Public Relations Department, Players Department, Game Mechanics (RD), Programming Department

User avatar
EchoMan
Posts: 7768
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:01 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Gas drilling rig

Postby EchoMan » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:09 am

Speeds up digging for gas.

500g per day without fuel, maybe 1500g fueled?
wadko
Posts: 544
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:51 am

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby wadko » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:19 pm

It would by nice to have one od those.
User avatar
Sunni Daez
Posts: 3637
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:33 pm
Location: ~A blissful state of mind~

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Sunni Daez » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:03 pm

Agreed
Image

Run...Dragon...Run!!!
Comy
Posts: 471
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:27 pm

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Comy » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:17 pm

This is not a +1 post, but it has the sentiment of one!

However, considering the way other machines work, shouldn't it be the tooled rate without fuel and four times that with fuel?
Dishonor on you, dishonor on your cow...
User avatar
EchoMan
Posts: 7768
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:01 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby EchoMan » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:46 am

Probably. I have no idea. I just fired from the hip on this one. :)
User avatar
Joshuamonkey
Owner/GAB Chair/HR Chair/ProgD
Posts: 4529
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 3:17 am
Location: Quahaki, U. S. A.
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Joshuamonkey » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:54 am

I think Comy's right. Being able to get gas so quickly would be nice, but is it okay to give gas another advantage considering how good it is compared to coal already? It shouldn't effect trade that much (though it might for some), so I guess it'd be okay either way.
Joshuamonkey's Blog
http://doryiskom.myminicity.com/
https://writealyze.com
"Don't be afraid to be different, but be as good as you can be." - President James E. Faust
I'm LDS, play the cello, and run.
User avatar
EchoMan
Posts: 7768
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:01 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby EchoMan » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:18 am

Well, coal you can use as fuel directly, whereas gas has to be refined into propane at a rate of 150 grams per day.
User avatar
Doug R.
Posts: 14857
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Doug R. » Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:28 pm

Yes, the refinement is the rate-limiting step. Honestly, all my characters that have to use gas (because that's all they have) have no problem getting gas in surplus, it's turning it to propane that's the issue. A drill will just make our gas pile bigger.
Hamsters is nice. ~Kaylee, Firefly
User avatar
Snickie
RD/HR Member/Translator-English (LD)
Posts: 4946
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:28 pm
Location: FL

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Snickie » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:05 am

I do support this rig because we have gas but nobody to dig it, and we have plenty of coal to refine it with, and WE NEED VEHICLE FUEL, DANGIT. -pantpant- Whoa.... :shock: Okay, anyway.


Thought: Would it be considered a bit pointless to use propane on the gas drilling rig?

</randomslightlyofftopiccommentsthatessentiallyequala+1post>
User avatar
Joshuamonkey
Owner/GAB Chair/HR Chair/ProgD
Posts: 4529
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 3:17 am
Location: Quahaki, U. S. A.
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Joshuamonkey » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:21 am

Snickie wrote:Thought: Would it be considered a bit pointless to use propane on the gas drilling rig?

Not really. Fuel is fuel. *shrugs*

Doug R. wrote:Yes, the refinement is the rate-limiting step. Honestly, all my characters that have to use gas (because that's all they have) have no problem getting gas in surplus, it's turning it to propane that's the issue. A drill will just make our gas pile bigger.

That's a good point. That seems to apply with my character that's at a town with gas also.
Joshuamonkey's Blog
http://doryiskom.myminicity.com/
https://writealyze.com
"Don't be afraid to be different, but be as good as you can be." - President James E. Faust
I'm LDS, play the cello, and run.
User avatar
EchoMan
Posts: 7768
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:01 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby EchoMan » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:07 am

Well, if you dig the gas faster, you can spend more time at the purifier or build another one to have more people produce propane, right? :)

Not all locations have tons of resources already in storage.
User avatar
Joshuamonkey
Owner/GAB Chair/HR Chair/ProgD
Posts: 4529
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 3:17 am
Location: Quahaki, U. S. A.
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Joshuamonkey » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:43 am

EchoMan wrote:Well, if you dig the gas faster, you can spend more time at the purifier or build another one to have more people produce propane, right?

It seems like the hard part is getting people to work inside..including my own characters.
Joshuamonkey's Blog
http://doryiskom.myminicity.com/
https://writealyze.com
"Don't be afraid to be different, but be as good as you can be." - President James E. Faust
I'm LDS, play the cello, and run.
User avatar
EchoMan
Posts: 7768
Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:01 pm
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby EchoMan » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:13 am

So how does this differ from any other machine (oil derrick, bauxite drill) that needs its produce to be refined indoors (distillation stack, alumina refiner)?
User avatar
Doug R.
Posts: 14857
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Doug R. » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:25 pm

I think the point is that it's no different, so we can dispense with objections based on it giving gas more of an advantage over other fuel types.
Hamsters is nice. ~Kaylee, Firefly
User avatar
Joshuamonkey
Owner/GAB Chair/HR Chair/ProgD
Posts: 4529
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 3:17 am
Location: Quahaki, U. S. A.
Contact:

Re: Gas drilling rig

Postby Joshuamonkey » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:38 am

EchoMan wrote:Well, coal you can use as fuel directly, whereas gas has to be refined into propane at a rate of 150 grams per day.

Doug R. wrote:Yes, the refinement is the rate-limiting step. Honestly, all my characters that have to use gas (because that's all they have) have no problem getting gas in surplus, it's turning it to propane that's the issue. A drill will just make our gas pile bigger.

Actually, I thought both of you meant that having to refine it makes it less convenient. It certainly doesn't make it less efficient for refining and smelting.
Using a pickaxe for hematite, a coal drill, a limestone quarry, using coal to refine the gas, and a sledgehammer, going purely by days of work, with coal for the refining and smelting you'd get 113.9694 grams of iron per day of work or 129.0751 g of steel per day of work. With propane you'd get 124.408 g of iron per day or 146.375 g of steel per day. This is the advantage I'm referring to. This calculation doesn't include using fuel for the coal drill, but obviously that just gives coal more of a disadvantage. Also, once you've got the propane made (and if you already have stockpiles of limestone and hematite), propane is more convenient to use because the actual time you have to spend on a smelting furnace is much less.
Joshuamonkey's Blog
http://doryiskom.myminicity.com/
https://writealyze.com
"Don't be afraid to be different, but be as good as you can be." - President James E. Faust
I'm LDS, play the cello, and run.

Return to “Suggestions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest