Project Having sex

[Doodle_Jack]

when you think about it, surely a loincloth is equal to "Nothing worth mentioning"?

Have you ever seen a guy or a girl walking in the street wearing a loin cloth? If someone would, I think you'd find it "worth mentioning"!


I don't feel like contributing more of my brilliant insights to this discussion, but you kiddo's go ahead...

[kinvoya]

@ PRUT

For various reasons many things in Cantr are, and probably will remain, different from rl. The programmers, staff and players are constantly debating and deciding how much like rl Cantr should and can be.

As I stated before, I'm not going to advocate that sexual rp be banned from Cantr but the fact that a new poster, who sounds more mature and writes better than 90% of the people I went to college with, has revealed that he is 12 years old* just confirms my own, personal decision not to rp sex in Cantr.

*And, please, I don't need to hear again about how kids can find any kind of sexual stuff they want on the internet. I know and I don't give a fark. My own moral code says not only "No way" but but ":shock: "

[PRUT]

@ kinvoya

Have you seen mentioned Sims?
this game is for children and the sex case is solved by "playing" in bed
This serie is stilll in shops worldwide, it wasn't forbidden because of immoral activities.

(he) has revealed that he is 12 years old* just confirms my own, personal decision not to rp sex in Cantr.

Sims are for children too. And there is more erotics than other games, because you have graphics and You can see what You are doing.

In candr would be no erotics, no sex scenes - nothing which may be threatened as sex activity in normal sense.

"Sex project" would be just text information In cantr the is no graphics. Just text.

In my opinion "sex project" is as offensive as "be naked".
Don't be crazy.

[Yo_Yo]

... You're all argueing about weither sex in cantr (albiet project based) is right or wrong. I say who cares. Do you need it? No. Whats the point of sex if it's going to be emotionless? Thats what sets us apart from the animals guys

[PRUT]

Seko is right. Case should be closed as "nothing worth mentioning".

We are to young (as a comunity of candr) to do such things or even talk about

Lets think that storks brings babies or something else (don't know other stories worlwide ) and be happy.

I suggest also stop killing animals!!! It's awful!
I wouldn't let my child to kill any animal or harm person.
This should be banned.

[Doodle_Jack]

Thats what sets us apart from the animals guys

You and me, baby, ain't nothing but mammals,
so let's do it like they do on the Discovery channel....

Bloodhound Gang
Ain't Nothing But Mammals

[SekoETC]

I actually stopped to think after kinvoya's post that having a sex project might encourage people to have plain mechanical sex and forget about the rp (though it sounds pretty ridiculous to anyone who usually likes rp'ing). But without the after effects being added, it's not really worth the trouble. To me, the sex project would merely be a do not disturb note for someone who happens to look at character descriptions / search for actions, and if someone arrived to a location you were having sex in and wouldn't bother to check for such action, you might still be annoyed by the presense of an extra person. But ok, if someone hangs around bothering, you might as well post the "*is wrestling naked with a man in his twenties*" or something like that, or if the person is already gone then good, no problem.

[The Sociologist]

*sighs*

Look, how about a "hiding behind a bush" project; then any parties joining the same project don't have their whispering to each other reported to the rest of the community in the way that normally happens. Such a project does not have to imply sex--it could be an open-air meeting of town leaders for that matter--and has the advantage of producing a worthwhile outcome.

By the way, I also reject this current mania for trying to infantilize teenagers. In many cultures in the past, 14 year-olds could marry. Merely because everyone needs an additional 8 years of schooling nowadays, is no reason to consider teenagers to be infants. Ironically, western culture is now yet more stressed by the fact that teenagers are reaching sexual maturity even earlier, due perhaps to the load of growth hormones accumulating in beef offal and finding their way into Big Mac burgers.

[glitterdown]

As tempting as the "ancient peoples' married at 14" or even the "Jewish Bar/Bat Mitzvah = adulthood at 13" arguments are...

It doesn't do a whole lot to change that most societies reserve "adult activities" Drinking (US/Canada), Marriage (without parent's permission anyway) and even voting to >18 years of age.

I'm not here to argue about what's right or wrong (morally or otherwise). I'm just saying that there IS a difference between teenagers and (other?) adults. One that makes me uncomfortable enough to want to discourage sex in Cantr. Do what you want in Real-Life, but don't inflict it on me here, and definately don't ask me to argue in favor of Pedophilia. Legally, in most western countries teens are children, and sex-play with children is Pedophilia.

Leave out the fact that sex-play BETWEEN teens in the US is ALSO pedophilia for now.

[kinvoya]

Look, how about a "hiding behind a bush" project; then any parties joining the same project don't have their whispering to each other reported to the rest of the community in the way that normally happens. Such a project does not have to imply sex--it could be an open-air meeting of town leaders for that matter--and has the advantage of producing a worthwhile outcome.

Hey, I suggested the secret whispering a while back and everybody scoffed!!

I still think people should be able to do things in secret (talk, handover items, go into buildings, etc.) with a 20% chance of being seen or heard. I think that would be so much fun and lots of oportunity for mischief!

[SekoETC]

I ran a poll on another site and the average age for losing virginity was 13 or 14 years old! The youngest were just 10. Damn kids... Anyway, if I make a game, it will be made clear that the people develop faster than real life humans, it would be annoying if you had to play 18 game years to reach adulthood. I think childhood should last max 5 months real time, after 3 months you should be able to do most of the things (in that time a newbie should have learned all the tricks).

[formerly known as hf]

By the way, I also reject this current mania for trying to infantilize teenagers.

Thankyou...

I'm just saying that there IS a difference between teenagers and (other?) adults

Sorry - i very much disagree...

I wasn't a teenager very long ago, and youth is now the focus of my current reserach and a lot of my work. The belief that childhood is something 'other' than adulthood developed in the early 18th Century - mostly in the higher classes.

That teenagers are something 'other' than adult is a much more recent development. Deeply rooted in marketing and advertising strategies of the 60s. Teenage started as a marketing term, and stuck.

That is not the only argument not to approach teenage years as something to be 'protected', 'cherished' and, most importantly, patronised, by adults. And that's it. It's deeply patronising, and, whatsmore, denies rights, as well as repsonsibilites, to people who, are,essentially adults, young or not.

Personally, I would not RP sex with a fifteen year old. Simply becuase I just do not RP sex. But those of you who are under some kind of pretence that a 15 year old is not fully aware of what they do if they RP sex, I would say that's somewhat dillusional... Do you not remember being a teenager? I'm not saying we should all go out and RP sex with those 12 year olds, but we should stop patronising youth, stop trying to protect them. Not only is that not our job, but down to their parents, but it is simply rude. I'm sure everyone here would hate large numbers of people questioning your ability to understand the world, to react correctly to experiences, to handle responsibility, and to express yourself as you would like to.

[Jetlag]

There's no difference between teenagers and adults? Really? In my own personal experience, there is. I remember what it was like being 15. I had absolutely no interest in sex whatsoever, and I got really peeved with the fact that it was thrown at me from every angle and the fact that certain of my peers made it very clear that they thought I was backward or even abnormal because I just wasn't interested. I had a few friends who thought and felt exactly the same as I did. So I get annoyed when people say "hey, all 15 year olds are at it anyway" because I wasn't, I didn't want to be, and I really object to the implication that I should have been.

All this "protect the children" stuff is at least in part a backlash against the idea of children growing up at earlier ages, with kids as young as six and seven wanting to wear sexy clothes, children as young as ten and eleven getting pregnant. Like it or not, the do-gooders have a point. There are known health risks associated with having sex at early ages, as well as all the other implications of having a baby when you're still in full time education and unable to financially support it. Of course, as with most backlashes, certain parts of it do go too far, and I quite agree that some aspects become patronising - but that doesn't mean the whole idea is completely unfounded.

Some young teenagers may be ready to roleplay, engage in, fully understand and be reasonable about sex. Some older teenagers may not. I'm not saying "let children be children" I'm saying "let people grow up at whatever rate suits them best".

I'm not going to say don't RP sex with teenagers because it's evil and you're going to corrupt them, but I will say, as I have in other threads on this topic, be aware of who you may be interacting with, and don't push them into anything they don't want to do.

[MakeBeliever]

Personally i feel having a sex project is not a good idea..

I think that Rping between couple's if enough, and you make it sound as if its easy to do but one of my chars got raunchy, obviously with someone who they had met and spent time with and who never said once lol, so i presumed they were over a certain age..And it wasn't as easy as i thought it would be..Haha..So it kind of fizzled out a bit.

But from what i can see in Cantr and in real life, Society wouldn't be what it is without the flirty banter, it has made some good friends with my characters and due to the fact there seems to be loads of people getting married i'm assuming it has done the same for others.

But i wouldn't want to see a project, as this would stop the fun of building a relationship between characters...

[PRUT]

Hey! People, what are you all talking about?

1) Sex project proposed by Seko is NOT RP Sex. There are just two word: "sex" and "project". You don't like word "sex" like "naked" - no problem.
I really can't imagine how to compare text "sex project" with cyber sex. I just can't. someone said it's emotionless or mechanical (and eating is not?). I say: all right. If we introduce emotions it will be similar to rp sex, but now it's NOT! I wonder if you understand what sex is? For me it is something different from two words.


2) You talking a lot of teenagers, and You are affraid of introducing simple sociological meaning of sex, trying to protect them from being corrupted.
But about VIOLENCE - you not such scrict. Child can KILL the other or just harm, and it is OK? Or maybe violence society is better that sex one?
I think that all what you are talking about teenagers is HYPOCRISY