Spawnsacs

[Doug R.]

Just change the current system to count only chars in their thirties or older... the problem of sailors leaving newspawns would disappear.

Except for all those sailors over thirty.

I understood language specific as only being able to be made in that language area...

English characters should only be able to make English nods, and the same with the other language groups.

Yes.

Now would that mean that an english would be able to build one on lets say polish land?
-I say nay...

That's how it is now.

Be careful this can't be exploited to produce non-local language spawns en masse to annoy certain towns, then.

They would be destroyable.

[Snake_byte]

Be careful this can't be exploited to produce non-local language spawns en masse to annoy certain towns, then.

They would be destroyable.

Doesn't that bring up another problem that's been discussed recently? Inability to make things destroyable...

[BZR]

Just change the current system to count only chars in their thirties or older... the problem of sailors leaving newspawns would disappear.

Except for all those sailors over thirty.

Actually not.

It would prevent the situation:

1. Sailors arrive
2. They "create" newspawns, some are active some are sleepers.
3. They take active with them, they leave sleepers because they sleep
4. Sleepers spawn new chars who are active and we have a multilingual city.

Even if sailors left active newspawns, there's a big chance they would move somewhere or simply die before reaching thirty.

If we combine it with another restriction, like 5+ chars are needed for spawning, it would fix the problem in 99.9% of situations.

[Snake_byte]

If we combine it with another restriction, like 5+ chars are needed for spawning, it would fix the problem in 99.9% of situations.

What about just doubling it to see how that works first? 5 Healthy active characters in one place are hard to come by...

[Piscator]

I still believe the problem lies in the way distance is taken into account when determining the spawn chances. It's quite sensible to reduce your spawn chances around others of your characters, but that shouldn't automatically mean that the farthest place has the best chances. The problem is not that chars spawn in foreign locations or that travellers recieve newspawns, but that those places seem to be favoured over all others.
If closeness to your chars is taken as a negative factor, it should be no problem to take in the closeness to all other chars of this LG as a positive factor. I don't think we need a fundamental change, just something to stop the forced dispersal of language groups around the globe (doughnut, whatever...).

[Arenti]

If we combine it with another restriction, like 5+ chars are needed for spawning, it would fix the problem in 99.9% of situations.

What about just doubling it to see how that works first? 5 Healthy active characters in one place are hard to come by...

Yes that way you will make it even more difficult for mountain towns who want to build an active community and are well lead. Those towns already hardly get any new spawns.

[BZR]

5 was only an example number Arenti. Compared to current 2 it is not much more. Also, as I observed, 70% of active newspawns leave mountain towns after spawning.

[Arenti]

5 was only an example number Arenti. Compared to current 2 it is not much more. Also, as I observed, 70% of active newspawns leave mountain towns after spawning.

For mountain towns the difference between 2 and 5 is a lot. And sure they leave if the town is very quiet. But if the new spawn is almost immediately greeted, given food a shield. Most will stay.

[catpurr]

how is the algorithm currently exactly?

Does every eligible location have the same chance to get a newspawn or do location with more people have higher chances? (that is a location with 8 people has 4 times the chance to get a spawn than one with 2)

If it is the former, then there you have the source for all your spawning problems.

[Saalko]

Mh why there is no button which say: I am a traveller please don't account me for the newspawn calculation. Than the problem with sailors are solved. (I hope.)

[Snake_byte]

that is a location with 8 people has 4 times the chance to get a spawn than one with 2.

It's my understanding that this is exactly the way it is now. It makes sense as a city with a larger population will reproduce faster... but it does need to tweaked...

[SekoETC]

Mh why there is no button which say: I am a traveller please don't account me for the newspawn calculation. Than the problem with sailors are solved. (I hope.)

Theoretically it would be a good idea, but what if people forgot to click the button, or turn it off when they stay somewhere long enough to think some fresh company/workforce would be nice. It would be better if the game could detect it automatically. How much time someone has spent in a location, and buildings and rooms would count as a part of the location. But how to keep track of how much time someone has been to a location?

[catpurr]

But how to keep track of how much time someone has been to a location?

So is this a challenge for the coding team? I hope not really...