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Evil Genius'
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:34 pm
by Coramon
Hitler was pure evil. I'm sure we can all agree on that. He genocided a large group of people, in the millions, but was he a genius? He turned his country from a democracy to a totalitarian dictatorship in a matter of months. That takes some brains. So was he an evil genius, and who were some other famous evil geniuses?
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:10 pm
by Crosshair
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/
The one titled "results may vary"
He was evil, and i cant help but think that if the art world was slightly more advanced in its ways back then, the whole thing may have been avoided... i have seen some of his paintings, and they are rather good by modern standards.
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:35 pm
by BadMonkey
Goebbels was more the genius...
And it was attempted genocide, he never actually succeeded. Unlike Mussolini.
*Wanders away from thread muttering about Italians*
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:45 pm
by Crosshair
Both were amazing orators. (excuse my spelling)
Hitlers speeches were works of art. Even if they did preach racial cleansing.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:35 am
by Coramon
Bad Monkey wrote:And it was attempted genocide, he never actually succeeded.
What? Jews are only about .2% of the worlds religions. It is estimated that they would be about 5 percent if it weren't for Hitler. A genocide isn't a total killing off, look up the definition. Its just killing a hell of a lot.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:01 am
by Phalynx
Evil is in the eye of the beholder...
as is genius...
Stalin was certainly no better, and in his way just as clever, he doesnt get the same attention...
Is Genius measured by outcome?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:20 am
by Stan
In my book, yes. You must succeed. That's what separates the clinically super intelligent from geniuses (is that a word?).
If you can use what you have to achieve results you might be smart, but not a genius in my book. A real genius knows what he/she can succeed in doing. If you have fool hardy plans like taking over the world you're either a genius or a fool with guts. If you take over the world. You are a genius. If you commit suicide in a bunker because you failed. You are a fool.
That's my 2 cents, but I'm a results oriented type of person.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:20 am
by Coramon
That was worth more than 2 cents.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:36 am
by Phalynx
So Atilla the hun? clever tactition... evil? genius?
Goerge W.... I know people tink he's thick but you dont get to where he did, even with Daddy's help without some brain cells, maybe he has hidden genius?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:30 am
by west
Phalynx wrote:So Atilla the hun? clever tactition... evil? genius?
Goerge W.... I know people tink he's thick but you dont get to where he did, even with Daddy's help without some brain cells, maybe he has hidden genius?
Pretty damn hidden then.
I think this assessment is scarily accurate (forget where i found it)
"George Bush is an incompetent surrounded by competent and malicious men."
It's not who you are in washington, it's who you know. Bush could be a stuffed rat and the country wouldn't be any different. The real power in his administration doesn't sit in the oval office.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:23 pm
by Nalaris
Coramon wrote:Bad Monkey wrote:And it was attempted genocide, he never actually succeeded.
What? Jews are only about .2% of the worlds religions. It is estimated that they would be about 5 percent if it weren't for Hitler. A genocide isn't a total killing off, look up the definition. Its just killing a hell of a lot.
"Systematic destruction of a race, religion etc."
The systematic destruction of the Jews would require their utter destruction. Hitler, thank (insert subject of readers worship here), didn't succeed.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:12 pm
by west
Incorrect. Genocide doesn't need to be totally successful to be "systematic destruction"; Hitler went about the destruction of the Jews, the Roma, etc. in a very systematic manner, targetting them directly. That is genocide, regardless of whether he killed ten thousand, six million, or every single one.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:28 pm
by Phalynx
Excluding fictional characters (EG Dr Moriarty) there doesn't seem to be many evil geniuses......
And yet everyone loveds a baddie, people wite about them and like to portay them in films, even RP them...
So why is that?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:52 pm
by BadMonkey
Phalynx wrote:Excluding fictional characters (EG Dr Moriarty) there doesn't seem to be many evil geniuses......
And yet everyone loveds a baddie, people wite about them and like to portay them in films, even RP them...
So why is that?
The same reason we like to play the hero. It's something we either wouldn't, or couldn't, do in real life. Escapism is wonderful.
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:00 pm
by Phalynx
BadMonkey wrote:
The same reason we like to play the hero. It's something we either wouldn't, or couldn't, do in real life. Escapism is wonderful.
Speak for yourself dude, heores don't all wear armour, and villains dont all wear black for that matter!