Thanksgiving Suicide :(
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- thatsmartguy
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Thanksgiving Suicide :(
It somewhat pains me that this is the first Turkey Day thread as far as I know, anyway, after consulting many different people for about an hour or so, I was able to cut through any doubt of the current situation. A kid from my school that I hung out with on a few occasions has just shot himself. I had no idea he would just up and do this, he gave no sign of being suicidal (not that I would expect anything obvious), there was nothing I could possibly do. I'm even more dissapointed that I missed a gathering at his house because I had dislocated my knee earlier in the day which I'm probably going got get some criticism for, but I couldn't walk. Although my situation is in no way comparable to it being a family member or really close buddy, it is still depressing that someone I knew is now gone. I'm sure we're going to do something at school when we get off our break, which doesn't help much. I'm mostly wondering how he got ahold of a gun and what drove him to it. It was Thanksgiving Day, for Christs sake! Was no one at the house? This seems like it could have been preventable, or at least stopped in time. I guess there's no use brooding over it, but it just confuses me. All I'm asking for is some condolences, maybe a prayer for the family if you're into that.
- SekoETC
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Holidays and celebration often makes lonely people feel even more lonely. People get together, friends and relatives, but you might feel that you have no one. They say about people going to kill themselves, that in the last days they are very peaceful and friendly, helping people out so that they would have a good memory of him/her. Peaceful because they've made the decision and know that everything will be over soon. There's nothing you could do to stop it, no one would know until it's too late. While those who tell a friend, make threats, cry a lot... they can still be saved. It's a myth that the people who tell about their suicide thoughts would never kill themselves. They often do. It's a cry for help, one that should not be ignored.
I read about a movie where in the beginning, a guy is celebrating his graduation... he gets a piece of cake, walks into his room and shoots himself. But it didn't really happen. Because it was a shock start, a dream or imagination. Still, there's another thing that makes people depressed. Changes in life. For a healthy kid, graduation means an open world full of choices. For a depressed kid it means falling out of safe scedules into drifting, nothing is certain anymore, you don't know where you'll be next year, let alone in ten years. Sometimes you feel like giving up.
(I wrote an essay on suicide a few years ago.)
I read about a movie where in the beginning, a guy is celebrating his graduation... he gets a piece of cake, walks into his room and shoots himself. But it didn't really happen. Because it was a shock start, a dream or imagination. Still, there's another thing that makes people depressed. Changes in life. For a healthy kid, graduation means an open world full of choices. For a depressed kid it means falling out of safe scedules into drifting, nothing is certain anymore, you don't know where you'll be next year, let alone in ten years. Sometimes you feel like giving up.
(I wrote an essay on suicide a few years ago.)
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- Dee
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Thanks a lot
It's not what you're thinking.. I mean, I'm not weeping the whole day or anything.. I'm just feeling down.. And my boyfriend is really making it much easier for me, he's always there for me whenever I need him, and I thank him for that.
We're all gonna die someday, and I know I will meet her when I die.. It's just that I miss her, that's all..
Anyways, enough depression

It's not what you're thinking.. I mean, I'm not weeping the whole day or anything.. I'm just feeling down.. And my boyfriend is really making it much easier for me, he's always there for me whenever I need him, and I thank him for that.
We're all gonna die someday, and I know I will meet her when I die.. It's just that I miss her, that's all..
Anyways, enough depression

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Dee wrote:We're all gonna die someday, and I know I will meet her when I die.. It's just that I miss her, that's all..
That's the way I feel about it... my uncle, whom I was very close to, died about two months ago and it still pains me...
I just think of I'm going to see him later on...
I hope you feel better, smartguy.
"No sane mortal is ever truly free, because true freedom is so terrible that only the mad or the devine can face it with open eyes." - Lord Havelock Vetinari: Going Postal by Terry Pratchett
- SekoETC
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I've never lost anyone really close. My cousin died last weekend but I didn't know him very well, I don't even remember what he looked like. And his father died a few years back, my uncle that is. I didn't like him that much either but it's different when you go to the funeral. One time was enough for me, I know I'd cry who ever was in the coffin.
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- Sunni Daez
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Tis a sad time for me. My mother has been gone now for 6 years, but this year it has hit me the hardest. I remember making Thanksgiving day dinner with her, the turkey and all the fixins. many family members would come, so many that we actually sat on the livingroom floor to have enough seats for all. This year...no dinner to be made, very little family contact
I miss my Mom soooo much..I have cried for 3 days now. I need her so much this year...and I don't have her...she was my best friend, sometimes my only friend....














Run...Dragon...Run!!!
- Savanik
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I'm more of a person for a wake than a funeral. Some people might think it's disrespectful to throw a party for somebody's death - I think they just don't get it. It's not we're happy that they're dead - it's that we want to celebrate life - their life, specifically, and all the people that they touched, helped, and how they made the world a better place in their time.
Everyone dies sometimes. A lot of people don't seem to understand this. They freak out over cancer and heart disease - hey, we've cured everything else that used to kill people (and we're working on those).
Suicides, however, are very tragic - someone who had a full life ahead of them, things they could have done, people they could have talked to... From what I understand, the biggest cause is loneliness. I wish everyone could take a few minutes out of their day and reach out, meet someone new. Talk to people. Get connected - without all the computers and cellphones.
Nothing beats human contact.
Have you called your mother lately?
Sav
Everyone dies sometimes. A lot of people don't seem to understand this. They freak out over cancer and heart disease - hey, we've cured everything else that used to kill people (and we're working on those).
Suicides, however, are very tragic - someone who had a full life ahead of them, things they could have done, people they could have talked to... From what I understand, the biggest cause is loneliness. I wish everyone could take a few minutes out of their day and reach out, meet someone new. Talk to people. Get connected - without all the computers and cellphones.

Have you called your mother lately?

Sav
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Who remembers the anniversary of deaths? Sounds like a rather depressing thing to do. I've always found it better to only remember the times of people living, myself.
But sometimes, when I think about it, it's sort of hard to feel all to sorry about the deaths of some of my friends and people I know. To spite friendship of me, people who lived bad lives are hard to feel sorry for often.
Sudden death of people is always very saddening, though. One day, you there laughing and joking with a friend, and all of a sudden, gone forever. Always sad.
R.I.P.
GG
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Peace be to you, Jack and Daryl.
But sometimes, when I think about it, it's sort of hard to feel all to sorry about the deaths of some of my friends and people I know. To spite friendship of me, people who lived bad lives are hard to feel sorry for often.
Sudden death of people is always very saddening, though. One day, you there laughing and joking with a friend, and all of a sudden, gone forever. Always sad.
R.I.P.
GG
Big Ali
N-Dog
Peace be to you, Jack and Daryl.
"One death is a tragedy, a million is just statistics."
Joseph Stalin
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I stand by what I've said before...but I understand missing folks...
This is the first time someone's died that's close to me.
But, please cheer up, Sunni...you're making me sad...
This is the first time someone's died that's close to me.
But, please cheer up, Sunni...you're making me sad...
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- KiNG KiLL
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Savanik wrote:
I couldn't agree more..
Why not talk and laugh togther and remember the good things the dead person has brought you? And the bad things, if it makes everyone laugh. When I think of my dead relatives and friends, and crazy things they did... the memories makes me smile, but sometimes you can cry at the same time since you feel how much you miss the person. I believe this is way better for everyone rather than torture everyone with funerals...
I'm more of a person for a wake than a funeral. Some people might think it's disrespectful to throw a party for somebody's death - I think they just don't get it. It's not we're happy that they're dead - it's that we want to celebrate life - their life, specifically, and all the people that they touched, helped, and how they made the world a better place in their time.
I couldn't agree more..
Why not talk and laugh togther and remember the good things the dead person has brought you? And the bad things, if it makes everyone laugh. When I think of my dead relatives and friends, and crazy things they did... the memories makes me smile, but sometimes you can cry at the same time since you feel how much you miss the person. I believe this is way better for everyone rather than torture everyone with funerals...
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My uncle didn't have a funeral...we had a memorial service, and we talked about the awesome stuff he did with his life...mm...I miss him still...but again... wow I reiterate a lot.
"No sane mortal is ever truly free, because true freedom is so terrible that only the mad or the devine can face it with open eyes." - Lord Havelock Vetinari: Going Postal by Terry Pratchett
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Death is never fun, I had a coworker die in the middle of the night, to this day we're not sure if it's suicide or not
Last year my boyfriend of 10 years died...
The odd thing about it was, We think he knew that he was going to go...
Here is a poem he wrote just a few months before his death:
2004
When you read this number
It will be old
It will be loaded
A number that means memories
Gives definition to a strange romance
In Milwaukee
A car crash in Los Angeles
But today
In early February,
Its mean is not so clear.
It is new
And unkown
I am speaking to you from the first chapter
Of a book you have already finished.
I'm not sure I like clarity
All the answers laid out before me
Like an old calendar,
Every day dead
Beneath an 'X.'
And if 2004 ends
Without me
It will define me.
A number beneath my name,
Following 1981 and a dash.
And that dash means
My whole life.
And a dash seems such
A small, insignifigant thing,
Something you can cut out
And hold in your palm.
My whole life a dash
Cutting in half
Eight cold digits
That mean as little
As a zip code or
A phone number.
And this number
2004,
We know will mean
An election and Olympics.
But what else?
Can we be sure
That it will end
And be as dead to us
As 1963 or
1794?
That it will be a relic,
A date on a book
Like 1897 on Dracula?
We can not be sure
And I dig that.
2004 can mean anything
Much as a life that began
On January first
And holds the destiny
Of a Christ, and Anti-Christ or something
even more.
Last year my boyfriend of 10 years died...
The odd thing about it was, We think he knew that he was going to go...
Here is a poem he wrote just a few months before his death:
2004
When you read this number
It will be old
It will be loaded
A number that means memories
Gives definition to a strange romance
In Milwaukee
A car crash in Los Angeles
But today
In early February,
Its mean is not so clear.
It is new
And unkown
I am speaking to you from the first chapter
Of a book you have already finished.
I'm not sure I like clarity
All the answers laid out before me
Like an old calendar,
Every day dead
Beneath an 'X.'
And if 2004 ends
Without me
It will define me.
A number beneath my name,
Following 1981 and a dash.
And that dash means
My whole life.
And a dash seems such
A small, insignifigant thing,
Something you can cut out
And hold in your palm.
My whole life a dash
Cutting in half
Eight cold digits
That mean as little
As a zip code or
A phone number.
And this number
2004,
We know will mean
An election and Olympics.
But what else?
Can we be sure
That it will end
And be as dead to us
As 1963 or
1794?
That it will be a relic,
A date on a book
Like 1897 on Dracula?
We can not be sure
And I dig that.
2004 can mean anything
Much as a life that began
On January first
And holds the destiny
Of a Christ, and Anti-Christ or something
even more.
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