Cantr II Discussion Forum

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MTV SUCKS MY NUTS! They don't even show music videos any more, they have just downgraded themselves to showing rich white pot heads and black rappers, in an effort to convert our youth into poor rapping pot heads. And all you white chicks, you still aren't black, and no, you never will be. So stop listening to rap, idiots!

Oh man that's so funny because it's so true, I hate rap so bad...

In general I agree with you, racetyme, but I think your wording is not family friendly and if I have to be FF then everybody does. Haha!!

And all you white chicks, you still aren't black, and no, you never will be. So stop listening to rap, idiots!

So now we're only allowed to listen to music that is produced by musicians from our own ethnic background? I didn't get that memo. Also, what's your deal about "chicks" doing that? Like guys don't do the same thing?

kinvoya wrote:In general I agree with you, racetyme,

You're kidding? You agree with that guy?

Savanik wrote:It's actually been proven in studies that people aren't very good at telling the difference between people from other ethinicities. Apparently the facial cues that let us tell others apart are learned in early childhood.

Xeemar's face is longer in the cheekbones, and Fez's chin makes a stronger angle.

Sav

Of course they don’t look exactly alike, man. Nobody said they were identical twins. But he does (in my opnion) look like that actor.

And what’s this about ethnicity and magic ques? I’ve heard white guys say to other white guys “You look like such and such actor.” Just as a white guy might tell a desi guy that he looks like such and such actor.

Somali guy tells a Zulu guy he looks like Weasley Snipes or a Slavic guy tells an Irish guy he looks like Mel Gibson. It’s nothing to do with thinking all people of the same ethnicity look alike.

Racetyme wrote:MTV SUCKS MY NUTS! They don't even show music videos any more, they have just downgraded themselves to showing rich white pot heads and black rappers, in an effort to convert our youth into poor rapping pot heads. And all you white chicks, you still aren't black, and no, you never will be. So stop listening to rap, idiots!

They do show music videos. I hate music videos, is all. And the music which the videos are made for is no good. That’s what I was saying.

I don’t know where the pot is coming from, and I don’t see what’s wrong if “Our youth” (by this I assume you mean the youth of North America) likes rap or any other form of hip hop.

And nobody’s trying to make “Our youth” poor, my friend. Very much the opposite. They are trying to appeal to white children because they are not poor. They have the money to buy the merchandise. The black youth, they’re poor, and that is why the big corporations no longer have them as a target audience anymore.

But why should white people stop listening to hip hop? White people have always been part of hip hop. Always, and now that more of them like it, I see no problem. They’ve always been there. I just don’t want people thinking that all this shitty MTV generic crap is real hip hop, because really, it isn’t.

And as for “Trying to be black.” Well, a lot of white children are just trying to “be black” because of the great wall of stereotypes. But what they are trying to be is not actually what being black is. You get me?

Slayer wrote::lol: Oh man that's so funny because it's so true, I hate rap so bad...

By rap I'm guessing you mean hip hop (people always seem to say rap instead of hip hop these days).

Way to disregard an entire genre of music, son. Way too go.

kinvoya wrote:In general I agree with you, racetyme, but I think your wording is not family friendly and if I have to be FF then everybody does. Haha!!

What does FF mean?

And all you white chicks, you still aren't black, and no, you never will be. So stop listening to rap, idiots!

So now we're only allowed to listen to music that is produced by musicians from our own ethnic background? I didn't get that memo. Also, what's your deal about "chicks" doing that? Like guys don't do the same thing?[/quote]

Ethnicity really doesn't have much to do with hip hop anymore, and never really did.

Since the very beggining, it was black and latino people, yes, but pretty well right near it's birth it was with everyone.Afro Americans, latinos, whites, arabs, east Asians, everyone.

And that was in the beginning.

Nowadays, hip hop has spread across the globe, I am mean this. It’s not just a few other peoples who are novelties because they write hip hop and are not from America. Hip Hop is everywhere, and has been for a long time. It’s just that American media and music companies have ignored them, and continue to ignore them entirely.

It is, however, my belief, that sometime in the not so distant future, the underground and the foreigners are going to kick some big corperation ass.

On the subject of hip hop...

http://thebox2.free.fr/juice.mp3 The Juice Crew live in Brooklyn

http://thebox2.free.fr/downbeats.mp3 Downbeats by MC Chill and Beatmaster

http://thebox2.free.fr/gangster1.mp3 The Gangster of Hip Hop Part 1, by Just-Ice and The Human DMX

http://thebox2.free.fr/gangster2.mp3 The Gangster of Hip Hop Part 2, by Just-Ice and The Human DMX

http://thebox2.free.fr/badboys.mp3 Veronica, this version done by the Bad Boys


This got rather far off topic if you ask me.

I am not trying to hold people to their own races music, but for god's sakes something is wrong when every white girl in their teens likes rap. I would have the same feelings if they listened to classical, I am just saying that the only reason such a huge percentage listen to it is because it is popular. I could say the same thing about black's, there is no possible way rap does it for everybody.............

I'm sorry, but theres nothing wrong with Classical Music.

Yes, the peer pressure culture causes two super blocks to be developed and pushed against each other, this is whats happening all the time.

But when did this get to do with What Cantrians look like?

I am not saying there is anything wrong with classical, but it would be a little odd if an entire generation started listening to it, don't you think?

Entire generations listened to Rock and Roll.

And what's this about "The music of their own races"?

What the hell is that?

Not at all. My music lessons are practically religious experiences. All of them fascinating and opening up new horizons of exelence for me and broadening my mind to music. before my GCSE year i could not admit to liking John Tavener (renaisance composer) or even Mendleson, let along Beethoven and Bach. now they all seem like wonderous people to me, able to craft music in their heads, music that no one has ever heard before. That, is composing, and you cant argue that even half the rock in this modern world sounds the same, not that i dont like rock.

I AM NOT SAYING ANY KIND OF MUSIC IS INFERIOR TO ANY OTHER. All I am trying to say is that people's choices in music are influenced much to much by peer pressure, and that if they were not constantly surrounded by X type of music, they might actually enjoy Y type of music, they are not actually choosing their favourite music, their friends are.

I just agreed with you.....

The peer pressure culture....

Racetyme wrote:I am not trying to hold people to their own races music, but for god's sakes something is wrong when every white girl in their teens likes rap. I would have the same feelings if they listened to classical, I am just saying that the only reason such a huge percentage listen to it is because it is popular. I could say the same thing about black's, there is no possible way rap does it for everybody.............

What's that supposed to mean, is what I mean.

Alright, all I am trying to say is exactly what crosshair just said, our culture and citizens are influenced too much by peer pressure.

Its like a chain reaction, due to the weakening of will by the chain, which is not one line, it can be a circle around some people, and as each link gets affected, another may or may not follow, but mostly, to keep the chain (which represents relationship) intact, the link follows.

Example:

My friend wanted to play a trick on somebody, basically he told everone to tell this person that they liked Hearsay.

The next day or two, this person had BOUGHT the Hearsay album, and we all laughed because we all hate Hearsay... mean, but an example of society.