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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:59 pm
by Thomas Pickert
I have slightly altered the description of the algorithm. It doesn't change the general idea, only the outcome. ;)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:35 pm
by Solfius
Thomas Pickert wrote:I doubt that it's that what he means. Because, to me it's obvious that there are more reasons for asking the question about the amnesty than reasons for this.
As I don't see a why there, I really can't imagine that Solfius would post such a why here.

Actually, the first post there clearly states that Solfius is not a big why-fan anyways. Maybe he's possessed.


And besides all that, I just don't want to answer the why-question yet. ;)


one word for that topic: Boredom. At least I said there was no point to that thread, although arguably it was a vocabularly building exercise. And yes it is obvious there are resons, but I don't know what, hence I asked. It's more a case of why are you asking, because I'd like to know whether it's worth trying to come up with a solution

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:21 pm
by Thomas Pickert
A reason for this question was also partly boredom. But when I'm bored, I tend to get my brain really busy, instead of opening threads like 'Boredom, asl, or something completely different'.

So, the question is, as I said in the first post, hypothetical. There's not really a Chairman of the PD who would grant amnesty to people in such a way. And my question is not a real question either, as I do already know the answer to it.

And you won't get a grand prize for finding the answer, and, more important, the reason why the answer is correct.

The main reason was, that I was curious how many people would actually try to solve the problem. And how many would immediately turn around and flee. And I was also curious about who would ask questions like 'What is the point of this?'.

In the past, when staff positions had been opened, I've read a few times in applications, that people thought, that they could tackle any problem. One of them, some might recognize him, was even absolutely sure, that he would be brilliant in several disciplines, including maths. We should just give him a problem, and he would solve it.

He wasn't ever seriously considered for a position in staff, because he didn't fit in for other reasons, but I always wondered how he would have performed on a real problem.

And yesterday, I got reminded of that, because I testified someone else saying that his programming skills were for the birds, while his math skills were absolutely fabulous.

This made me think, that I could try a little experiment. Instead of reading in the next applicatíons about awesome maths and programming skills, and then wondering if those specs were true or exaggerated, I could pose a simple puzzle, that would surely find the interest of anybody remotely interested in maths. If anyone could even solve it, that would be much better.

David came closest to someone who I would consider capable to tackle a given problem. (Always only judging from this short-term experiment.) He basically found the solution. The answer is much easier than his answer, but he has discovered the main idea behind the puzzle. He's the king. ;-)

Rob at least tried to give an answer, even if it was wrong. It might also have been a joke, but it could have led to finding a solution.

Solfius asked why. That's still 'better' (Only related to this experiment, it doesn't really say much.) than not caring at all, but it indicates that he's not much of a maths person. A maths person sees a puzzle and solves it. Or proves that there's no solution to the problem. ;) Why vanishes for that period from their vocabulary.


That was the long answer to the Why-question. Sorry for experimenting with you. :)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:40 pm
by rklenseth
A man goes into a forest. He sees something and tries to get it out but he can't. So he leaves with it. What is it?

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:58 pm
by Báng
A dead cow?

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:24 pm
by Thomas Pickert
Sounds like a tricky answer. Maybe sunset, or something like that. But you don't need to go into a forest to see a sunset.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:32 pm
by Thomas Pickert
Maybe a fire? ;-)

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:50 pm
by rklenseth
No......but if you think you have an answer send me a private message. I'll tell you if you are right. :D

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:52 pm
by rklenseth
It's not as much as trick question but as the obvious. Don't think to hard. And I can answer yes and no questions.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:40 pm
by swymir
I think I know it. I'm good with riddles.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:03 pm
by rklenseth
It's really not a riddle but knowledge of the obvious. But if you think you know, send me a private message.

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:21 pm
by rklenseth
Alright, one person, Last Laugh, got the answer. Anyone else?

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:00 am
by Meh
Did I get it?
Did I get it?

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:02 am
by Meh
Thomas Pickert wrote:David came closest to someone who I would consider capable to tackle a given problem. (Always only judging from this short-term experiment.) He basically found the solution. The answer is much easier than his answer, but he has discovered the main idea behind the puzzle. He's the king. ;-)


Aw shucks. :oops:

Also proves that I can't go without answering a post.

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:17 am
by rklenseth
Alright, two people have the answer though I think they have probably heard it before. Sorry, David, taking the trees out of the forest doesn't work considering no matter where you put the trees the forest would have moved to where the trees are. Keep trying and listen to my advice. :wink:

Once a few people have gotten this simple question I'll upgrade to a harder one. :D