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I am the kind of person who likes to kick a dead horse, and so here I am, wailing away with my steel toed boots.

It seems that yankees feel that there set of values is universal, and so they may do whatever they like within this system.

This is foolish. I was going to go on and on and on about this, but I realize that that would bore you.

Instead of a long rant, I will give you this little thing here, an example.

Yankees seem to think that there (constantly circumvented and stepped on) constituition applies to the entire world.

This is idiocy.

An example.

On countless internet forum things, television and radio programs, yankees feel they may say whatever they want to say, because of "Freedom of speech."

This is NOT true. The United States constituition protects people saying whatever thing they want, yes.

But it does not give you the right to hijack other peoples property for your own agenda.

If you want to say things that the owner of the radio station does not want you to, tough. No, he's no infringing on your freedom of speech. Your infringing on his property rights.

If you want to go shout something from the rooftops, go ahead. You can do that.

But you can't tell someone they have to let you use THERE property for YOUR agenda. If you want to do that, you will have to get your own radio station.

That is your constituition, and I am truly surprised that alot of american do not even understand this portion, or many other portions, for that matter, of there own beloved constituition.

Well, that's not the owner of the forum's (not internet, media forum) problem. He (or she) owns it, it's not yours to use. You use it on there terms. And on top of that, your constituition does not apply outside the national borders of the United States of America, however right or wrong it may be.







Deal with it.

Oooooo.. someone seems to be having a bad day...

Lots of flag waving and "get that flag out of my face" anger ...

All over a couple words that could have been just said differently.

What is everyone putting in their coffee? You guys should lay off. Go take a nap or something. People are getting far to stressed over these little things.

Aye. And I hope that wasn't addressing the entire U.S. A bit of a generalization.

mikki wrote:Oooooo.. someone seems to be having a bad day...

I agree...

Nixit wrote:Aye. And I hope that wasn't addressing the entire U.S. A bit of a generalization.

It sounds that way to me, one persons actions or opinions do not reflect the opinions of an ENTIRE country.....

Acutually, I assumed he was talking about the recent news article I read that a couple American companies were suing to not be held liable for their web content that was protected by American free speech, but that other countries' citizens could see and find objectionable.

Yup. Simmer dude. It's my job to complain about my country.

And by the way, do ya'll actually call us Yankees outside the States? That's kind of cool. I didn't realize the word was actually used to refer to all of us. It's supposed to be a North vs. South thing in case you cared, which I doubt you do up on your soap box. I understand that breathtaking ignorance of other people's cultures isn't a uniquely American characteristic.

Thank you very much for explaining my Constitution to me. I have always wondered how life really worked here. If you like, I could exchange the favor and explain the intricacies of Canadian culture to you sometime. I don't like to brag, but I'm somewhat of an expert as I watch hockey and went to Winnipeg one day in 1999.

AngelSpice wrote:Acutually, I assumed he was talking about the recent news article I read that a couple American companies were suing to not be held liable for their web content that was protected by American free speech, but that other countries' citizens could see and find objectionable.

Ah, so that company represents our country... and a few idiots on websites.

Wow.. Isn' t that nice to know Nixit? Very interesting to know that what one company says, goes for EVERYONES opinion..

Hmmm... I seem to be learning new things everyday..

schme wrote:It seems that yankees feel that there set of values is universal, and so they may do whatever they like within this system.

This is foolish. I was going to go on and on and on about this, but I realize that that would bore you.

Yankees seem to think that there (constantly circumvented and stepped on) constituition applies to the entire world.

Two words: Super Power We'll do what we want!

Dude, you need to chill. I have no idea what brought this up, but it was totally random. You've made some crazy posts before, but this one is the dumbest yet. Oh here, try some of your own medicine.

schme wrote:Deal with it.

Right back atcha.

I wish the rest of the world could just ignore us most of the time, actually. That would solve so many problems, if everyone could just mind there own friggin business. We're like the captain of the high school football team that everyone looks up to, though we're actually just a spoiled little rich kid of a nation.

I have a lot of opinions that I could and would like to vent right now, but I won't, because I realize that nobody really gives a crap about my opinions or half-assed theories, so I won't force them to suffer while I excercise my right to mental masturbation.

wichita wrote: We're like the captain of the high school football team that everyone looks up to, though we're actually just a spoiled little rich kid of a nation.

Hate to tell you this... but it's more like the bitchy Prom Queen who thinks she is admired, but in fact everybody only tolerates because it is in their best interests to avoid her anger (and the social repercussions).

I'm not so good at these metaphors...

Anyway, "Super Power" are the key words. And I think China will be the nation that finally voices their irritation with the USA.

*smirks* Um.. well.. ok Wichita.. you have fun with that..


What annoys me the most is that people from different countries seem to judge all Americans by what happens overall.. You don't like our president, or what we do here.. That is all fine. I could probably agree with you on several things if not more than that. But you don't seem to look at us on an individual basis. We are all different people with different personalities, and should all be given a chance. We shoud not be judged because of the country that we live in but who we are as a person.

The Surly Cantrian wrote:

wichita wrote: We're like the captain of the high school football team that everyone looks up to, though we're actually just a spoiled little rich kid of a nation.

Hate to tell you this... but it's more like the bitchy Prom Queen who thinks she is admired, but in fact everybody only tolerates because it is in their best interests to avoid her anger (and the social repercussions).

I'm not so good at these metaphors...

Anyway, "Super Power" are the key words. And I think China will be the nation that finally voices their irritation with the USA.

Yeah, once I threw the post out, I realized that it wasn't quite the metaphor I was going for. Yours has a nice flavor to it Surly.

Actually, though I get the impression that a lot of people in a lot of countries do honestly look up to us in a lot of respects. I think a lot of the poliical turmoil is actually to be blamed solely on the media. Reporters nowadays tend to blow everything out of proportion and sensationalize every little thing that the US government does. Other governments are doing shady stuff too, you just don't hear about it as much on TV because people are so emphatuated with blaming everything on our President.

Yeah, I would really like to move to Canada for a while. I assume it's just like living in the States but without a lot of the annoying world spotlight.

Unfortunately, recent events (or more precisely Bush) have alienated much of the good will felt towards the USA. But that is not to say that the USA is completely hated... there are a fair amount of people who look up to them. But none of those are in Europe anymore... and that is where the vast majority of non-American (or Canadian) media comes from.

And from my point of view, its the only part of the world that matters...