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How long before a ticket to space will as obtainable as a plane ticket is today?

by 2010
1
4%
by 2020
6
25%
by 2030
7
29%
by 2040
2
8%
by 2050
3
13%
by 2100
4
17%
never
1
4%
 
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Postby ephiroll » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:42 am

SpaceShipOne one flight from $10M prize


LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- A private space plane is set to shoot beyond Earth's atmosphere for the second time in a week Monday in a pioneering bid to win a $10 million prize and prove that space is open for business.

Inspired by SpaceShipOne's success, entrepreneurs like Virgin Group founder Richard Branson, have already announced plans to make space travel as ordinary as a Caribbean cruise.

But SpaceShipOne's wild, spiraling ride 62 miles straight up last week, may have also planted doubts as to how safe such ventures can be made, how they will be licensed and who will pay if something goes wrong.

SpaceShipOne designer Burt Rutan last week downplayed potential safety issues with the craft, saying any design flaws were minor and could be remedied in the next generation.

"We are extremely confident that we are going to be able to produce the first space tourism commercial spaceliner that will start out service with reliability, I believe, significantly better than the first airlines had when they started doing service decades ago when we first had the first airliner," Rutan said after his craft's qualifying bid Wednesday.

The potentially prize-winning flight set for Monday comes a week after Branson, owner of Virgin Atlantic Airways, said he would sell tickets on ships to be built by Mojave Aerospace Ventures, the makers of SpaceShipOne.

Already more than 100 would-be space tourists have paid celestial travel agency Space Adventures sizable deposits for suborbital rides on ships that haven't even been built yet.

The high price of tickets, projected at $100,000 to $200,000, has not deterred future customers.

That is still far less than the $20 million it costs to ride the Russian Soyuz, the only ship that has taken tourists into space.

U.S. lawmakers, too, are taking the first steps to regulate space tourism. In March, the House of Representatives passed legislation to limit liability for space launch companies and to inform space travelers of the potential risks.

The rush of money toward space businesses was the result Peter Diamandis intended when he founded the Ansari X Prize in 1996.

The prize offers $10 million for the first privately funded, three-seat spacecraft that could be flown twice in two weeks carrying three adults or their weight equivalent.

In all, 26 companies in seven countries rose to Diamandis's challenge. Although Mojave Aerospace Ventures got to space first, all now plan to vie for the potentially lucrative space tourism market.

Space Adventures customer Per Wimmer, an investment banker based in London who enjoys mountain climbing and scuba diving, said he will accept some risk in pursuit of the ultimate high. He quantified acceptable risk, however, as a spaceship that had less than a 1 percent chance of crashing.

But even if a fatal crash occurs before he has a chance to ride, says Wimmer, he will still want to go.

"The answer is not to step away," he said. "The answer is to improve the safety of these things and push ahead."



I can't help but be heavily reminded of the start of aeronautics about this time one century ago and the similarity of it to the current X-Prize and the possibilites that will no doubt spring from it. These guys are sopposed to make their second (winning?) run tomorrow. Perssonally I think they'll pull it off.
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Postby ephiroll » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:10 pm

They did indeed do it, beat the 62 mile mark by 8 miles actually, space is now open to commercialism.
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Postby grayjaket » Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:25 pm

w00tage! now I just need 200,000 dollars........
I just can't stop coming back....
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Postby ephiroll » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:55 pm

Give it a few years...
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Postby grayjaket » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:09 am

but then I'll be ooollldddd....
I just can't stop coming back....
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Postby Psycho Pixie » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:58 am

what? i am the only one who thinks it will be another 100 years before its common to travel in space for the price of a cross country flight?

come on now..... *grins* in todays law suit crazed society, with all the legalities, it will take a while for some company to really be able to sell tickets that cheap. then of course theres this: people buy tickets to GO someplace. the demand to go up in a plane, and see space, wont be great enough to make the prices lower for EVERYONE to go. you know what I mean? I spend 300-600 cash, i want a destination, some vacation time, and sites to see. Space is great, but really, when it comes down to it, i would rather pay that money to take a vacation with my family.

maybe I am a boring old geezer, maybe I am alone on this opinion, but I dont think it will "take off" so fast.


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Postby ephiroll » Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:49 am

But you're missing the point, <i>space</i> is the destination, hell, if I had 200k to blow I'd be pushing for a seat on that craft right now. And there's a simple way to get around the lawsuit deal which is used everyday all around us, it's called a waver of rights. In other words you sign a piece of paper saying that the company is in no way responsible for anything that happens and therefore protects the company when one of the craft pulls a "Challenger" and everyone floats down in a red gritty spray. Thing is these guys are just the winners of the X-Prize, there are labout 15 other teams working toward the same goal of putting a commercial aircraft in space, soon as a couple of them get into business competition will naturally drive down the cost, as will the standardization of the tech and streamlined procedures.

@Jake: I won't consider myself old till I hit 55 or so, and even then it will depend on my physical condition, the two test pilots that flew the craft to win the X-Prize are both about that age give or take a year or two, if they can ride that thing I have no doubts that I can at that age if I have to wait that long for my chance.
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