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Would you!?

Postby viktor » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:25 pm

something to consider, would you ever consume human waste? if you answered 'NO', answer this next question, do you drink pop? if you answered 'YES' please be aware, in essence, carbon dioxide is a human waste product and is what we use to carbonate beveredges. disgusted much?
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Postby Doug R. » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:34 pm

Carbon dioxide was around long before a single cell ever swam on the earth. The vast majority was in our atmosphere long before us.
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Postby Snickie » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:42 pm

I had my tri-monthly soda (pop) the other day on Monday.

And if you really think about it, we breathe plant waste (oxygen). And even dihydrogen monoxide (water) is a cellular waste product produced by animal (human) cells. And yet we drink lots of it because we need it to live. But don't misread me in saying that drinking soda is good for you like breathing oxygen and drinking water are; I think people could make better choices about what they put into their bodies (foodwise—sex is another topic completely), but I'm not going there right now.
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Re: Would you!?

Postby viktor » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:00 pm

in drinking pop we conciously introduce <b>concentrated</b> amounts of this waste into our systems, oxygen 'plant waste' as you say, is not Human waste. water is fundamentally a medium by which all life on earth is dependant upon to carry out it's processes and use for mobility of nutrients and wastes
the human body doesn't use carbon dioxide, we suffocate if inundated with it, carbon monoxide may in small amounts under great stress be produced and is listed as a poison

other than that... what is pop made of.... an almost universal solvent(acid), a ludicrous amount of sugar (same levels in fizzy and flat pop but the fizz distracts you from noticing just how much there is), a food dye, a stimulant(caffeine at least heavily in pepsi and coke), and of course, a human waste product(carbon dioxide)
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Re: Would you!?

Postby RedQueen.exe » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:08 am

Calling it a human waste product is silly. While technically true, giving things those kind of labels are really just a way of poisoning the well.

I'm sure you don't eat anything with salt in it right? You know, that human sweat product?
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Postby Piscator » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:21 pm

OMG! There's carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, too! I'll stop breathing immediately!!!
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Postby Chroma Key » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:40 pm

^ Hilarious. :lol:
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Re: Would you!?

Postby Addicted » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:23 pm

Reclaiming 'grey' water and recycling waste water is big in my area, as we are often in a drought and have a water shortage. They claim the water is cleaner and healthier then the dam water.

Also, if I was desperate, I would certainly consider urine to prevent dehyration. (As in Bear on TV)

Now what came to mind first on reading the original text was eating poo (the most obvious human waste product). I don't think I could, under any circumstances. The idea completely grosses me out. If this this isn't what you meant, I'm sorry for yet again lowering the tone.

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Re: Would you!?

Postby viktor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:58 pm

so much for trying to help people quit the addiction.. enjoy the rotten teeth, diabetes(cancer if you drink diet) and ulcers
didn't think people would be so hard core to support drinking pop *shrugs* :?
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Re: Would you!?

Postby RedQueen.exe » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:50 pm

It might have helped if you avoided poisoning the well by labeling it a "human waste product".

If there's good evidence for cancer from diet soda, I haven't seen it barring some studies where they gave the fake sugar to mice in insane quantities. If I do recall correctly, there is a problem with the CO2 or something else from sodas leaching calcium from your bones, however.

There is a relationship between soda consumption and diabetes, but I remember it being from the caffeine more than anything else. Oddly enough, if you get your caffeine from coffee or certain teas, there appears to be a protective effect that largely counterbalances the caffeine intake. So the best of both worlds is to drink decaf, as I understand.

As a recently-discovered diabetic myself (Type 2, found out last summer) and having recently visited the American Diabetes Association's webpage, I can tell you it isn't sugar intake that causes it. That's number three on their list of common diabetes myths. A high sugar intake does play a role only insofar as you're increasing your total calorie intake, as being overweight does play a factor. I've always been more of a spicy/salty snack kind of guy anyway, with my only real sweet weaknesses being ice cream and coconut cream pie.
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Re: Would you!?

Postby viktor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:04 pm

i myself insist on a diabetes test when i have a physical, my father has it, and i have a sweet tooth, sometimes i just need to grab that discounted torte or tray of brownies from the safeway cart, i am not too overweight but a year and a half ago i had a sudden 25 pound gain in 2 months which is still a mystery to me. (so far i've managed to lose only 10 of those pounds)
sugar may be third on the list of causing diabetes but serious contributor as a combined factor, i know a lot of pop drinkers and most of them drink a lot of pop, tastes better than water, cheaper than milk and juice, the excess sugar does still stress the pancreas and the habit leading people to go with diet when they find they gain weight or get diabetes and leads us to the aspartame which has been shown to increase cancer risk, they won't pull it any faster than they'll pull cigarettes off the shelves because it's all about money
the acid content as it washes over the teeth leaches them and then deposits sugar for the plaque and tartar, how many people run to brush right after every glass of pop has got to be miniscule, and then the acid carried into the rest of the digestive tract upsetting the ph balance and upping the risk of ulcers by a lot (capsacian in spicy food is not the cause, contrairy to popular belief)

i used to drink pop, years ago, it was common to see a bottle, possibly 2 in my fridge for variety, usually gone before going flat (i live alone) then at one point i decided i wanted to lose weight, i totally stopped the pop and did 5 mins of bike every day (the activity was not a big increase from previous) lost 15 pounds in 1 month(a friend of mine last year did similar except only stopped pop and kept everything else the same and they lost 15 pounds in their first month too). i did drink a little on occasion thereafter, but then last week i came to the concept of carbon dioxide being waste, which is the final straw and will shun it forever now
NET nutritional value is a negative number.. that's lower than alcahol
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Re: Would you!?

Postby RedQueen.exe » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:31 pm

Well capsaicin actually helps ulcers if they're caused by H. pylori.

H pylori as a cause of ulcers is one of those great cases to point out that an unpopular and possibly even ridiculed belief eventually becoming the consensus view if the evidence supports it. They did the legwork, and sure enough, changed people's minds.
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Postby Doug R. » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:29 pm

aspartame which has been shown to increase cancer risk


As stated previously, the daily amount of aspartame required to increase cancer risk in rats was so high that a human couldn't possibly consume that much in a day. It's one of those studies that's taken out of context and used as propaganda.
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Re: Would you!?

Postby SumBum » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:45 pm

GIMPY wrote:So the best of both worlds is to drink decaf, as I understand.


I haven't done the research myself, but have been told that formaldehyde is used to strip the caffeine from coffee beans. So, not exactly "safe" there either. I love coffee and drink it decaf or "half caf" because i don't like getting addicted to the caffeine.

I have had a strong dislike for soda for almost 20 years. I don't even like smelling it.
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Re: Would you!?

Postby mikki » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:31 am

*goes to clean out her cup for her hot chocolate in the morning, then goes and grabs her 1 liter Pepsi with a smile*

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