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Americans Discover Time Travel

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:09 am
by rklenseth
"Time Can be Turned Back"

03/01/2004 15:37

Time has been one of the most complicated and less studied scientific issues since ancient times

Eight years ago, American and British scientists who conducted investigations in Antarctica made a sensational discovery. US physicist Mariann McLein told the researchers noticed some spinning gray fog in the sky over the pole on January 27 which they believed to be just ordinary sandstorm. However, the gray fog did not change the form and did not move in the course of time. The researchers decided to investigate the phenomenon and launched a weather balloon with equipment capable to register the wind speed, the temperature and the air moisture. But the weather balloon soared upwards and immediately disappeared.

In a little while, the researchers brought the weather balloon back to the ground with the help of a rope attached to it before. They were extremely surprised to see that a chronometer set in the weather balloon displayed the date of January 27, 1965, the same day 30 years ago. The experiment was repeated several times after the researchers found out the equipment was in good repair. But each time the watch was back it displayed the past time. The phenomenon was called "the time gate" and was reported to the White House.

Today investigation of the unusual phenomenon is underway. It is supposed that the whirl crater above the South Pole is a tunnel allowing to penetrate into other times. What is more, programs on launching people to other times have been started. The CIA and the FBI are fighting for gaining control over the project that may change the course of history. It is not clear when the US federal authorities will approve the experiment.

Famous Russian scientist Nikolay Kozyrev conducted an experiment to prove that moving from the future to the past was possible. He substantiated his views with the hypotheses on instant information spreading through physical characteristics of time. Nikolay Kozyrev even supposed that "time could execute the work and produce energy." An American physics theorist has arrived at a conclusion that time is what existed before existence of the world.

It is known that each of us feels a different course of time under different conditions. Once lightning hit a mountain-climber; later the man told he saw the lightning got into his arm, slowly moved along it, separated the skin from the tissues and carbonized his cells. He felt as if there were quills of thousands hedgehogs under his skin.

Russian investigator of anomalous phenomena, philosopher and author of numerous books Gennady Belimov published his article under the headline "Time Machine: First Speed On" in the newspaper On the Verge of Impossible. He described unique experiments conducted by a group of enthusiasts led by Vadim Chernobrov, the man who began creation of time machines, devices with electromagnetic pumping in 1987. Today the group of enthusiasts can slow down or speed up the course of time using special impact of the magnetic field. The biggest slowing down of time made up 1.5 seconds within an hour of the equipment's operation in labs.

In August 2001, a new model of the time machine meant for a human was set in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. When the machine even operated on car batteries and had low capacity, it still managed to change the time by three per cent; the change was registered with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

At first, the researchers spent five, ten and twenty minutes in the operating machine; the longest stay lasted for half an hour. Vadim Chernobrov said that the people felt as if they moved to a different world; they felt life here and "there" at the same time as if some space was unfolding. "I cannot define the unusual feelings that we experienced at such moments."

Neither TV nor radio companies reported the astonishing fact; Gennady Belimov says the Russian president was not informed of the experiment. However, he tells that already under Stalin there was a Research Institute of the Parallel World. Results of experiments conducted by Academicians Kurchatov and Ioffe can be now found in the archives. In 1952, head of the Soviet secret police organization Lavrenty Beria initiated a case against researchers participating in the experiments, as a result of which 18 professors were executed by shooting and 59 candidates and doctors of physical sciences were sent to camps. The Institute recommenced its activity under Khruschev. But an experimental stand with eight leading researchers disappeared in 1961, and buildings close to the one where experiments were conducted were ruined. After that, the Communist Party political bureau and the Council of Ministers decided to suspend researchers of the Institute for an uncertain period.

The program was resumed in 1987 when the Institute already functioned on the territory of the Soviet Union. A tragedy occurred on August 30, 1989: an extremely strong explosion sounded at the Institute's branch office on the Anjou islands. The explosion destroyed not only the experimental module of 780 tons but also the archipelago itself that covered the area of 2 square kilometers. According to one of the versions of the tragedy, the module with three experimenters collided with a large object, probably an asteroid, in the parallel world or heading toward the parallel world. Having lost its propulsion system, the module probably remained in the parallel world.

The last record made in the framework of the experiment and kept at the Institute archives says: "We are dying but keep on conducting the experiment. It is very dark here; we see all objects become double, our hands and legs are transparent, we can see veins and bones through the skin. The oxygen supply will be enough for 43 hours, the life support system is seriously damaged. Our best regards to the families and friends!" Then the transmission suddenly stopped.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:20 am
by The Hunter
Yeah, time travel is possible, that has already been studied and experimented with... The "time travel" in experiments never was more than a few anoseconds tho.

And this post of yours... A new Sci-Fi series?

Besides, a chronograph isn't time... It's a mechanical piece of equipment, nothing more. Any time travel would set that clock back nor forward.

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:01 am
by west
*giggles* tee hee, Richard...you're silly!

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:36 pm
by berserk9779
what a load of crap.
If timetravel exists you americans should send your president back from when he is from. Stone age

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:27 am
by Pirog
I find the fact that Lenseth, in yet another fit of his abnormal patriotism, interpreted the article in a way that allowed the headline "Americans Discover Time Travel", more interesting then the obviously false article in itself :)

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:54 am
by rklenseth
I was just trying to catch people with the headline. I acutally got this off another forum and just copied the headline from over there.

Time travel is believed to be real. Quantam Physics, I think they call it. Quantam Physics was believed to be very limited up until the digital revolution in the 1990s. So if other parts of the theories has be proven true then perhaps time travel, which is a part of Quantam Physics, can be done as well. :wink:

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:04 am
by Thomas Pickert
Not Here So Much wrote:Time travel is believed to be real. Quantam Physics, I think they call it. Quantam Physics was believed to be very limited up until the digital revolution in the 1990s. So if other parts of the theories has be proven true then perhaps time travel, which is a part of Quantam Physics, can be done as well. :wink:


I think, you got a few things mixed up here. There was an experiment in the field of Quantum Physics, that had as an outcome, that sub-atomic elemts (quantums) could travel short distances without any time passing. That has nothing to do with time travel, nor is time travel a part of Quantum Physics.
Apart from that, I doubt the interpretation of that experiment, anyway. That's based more on a feeling, than on objective arguments, though. I don't have much knowledge in that field.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:35 am
by ephiroll
According to quantum physics time travel isn't just theoretically possible, but it MUST be possible if quantum theory is correct, but only to travel forward.

So is teleportation, which has "sorta" been done already, but "teleporting" the quantum properties of a light beam across a laboratory is a long way from star trek. I give us another hundred years if the human race doesn't destroy itself first and we'll be teleporting, and another 300 years for timetravel, right now the real problem with both things is that our computers aren't fast enough to deal with the immense volume of data that must be processed...yet...but we should be hitting 15gh by the end of this year, and if the quanta computer technology is figured out then we won't have to worry about computer speed ever again, but it'll probly be about 20 years for that tech to produce a commercial product.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:37 am
by ephiroll
berserk9779 wrote:what a load of crap.
If timetravel exists you americans should send your president back from when he is from. Stone age


Why send him back to where we already dragged him from? :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:14 am
by Thomas Pickert
ephiroll wrote:According to quantum physics time travel isn't just theoretically possible, but it MUST be possible if quantum theory is correct, but only to travel forward.


I believe, you are referring to this: According to Einstein's theory, time has passed slower for a moving object relatively to a non-moving object, after the moving object adjusts its moving to the non-moving object again.
This 'normal' movement can thus be interpreted as a time travel to the future. That interpretation is widely accepted, but I didn't consider this the kind of time travel this thread was dealing with.

Anyway, to really feel comfortable in a scientific discussion about this, I'd have to read up on the whole theory of quantum physics, instead of mind-quoting from hearsay. That's what I did so far, at least. And I don't like it. ;)

I'll leave the discussion to the experts.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:22 am
by kroner
except that quantum theory is exceptional to and in some ways defies relativity. i don't know much about quantum theory but i do know that instant transmission of matter is possible. this doesn't even make sense from the relativistic view because there is no such concept as simultanity at different locations. the raltive times of different places in space is determined by the reference frame, it's not an absolute.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:26 am
by new.vogue.nightmare
Time travel in reverse is theoretically possible, except it would require faster than light travel. The only way one can travel faster than a beam of light requires the light to slow down, such as with a massive gravitational field, and for an object travelling incredibly fast to take another route around the field, thus beating the beam of light. Or something along those lines...I didn't pay enough attention in class really. Anyway, the only thing capable of doing something to that effect would be a cosmic string, assuming they exist. I think. *scratches head and desperately tries to remember*

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:34 am
by ephiroll
Yes, I was referring to Einsteins theory, and to the test subject in such an experiment it would seem like time travel to the future as we commonly think of it. But there are other theories about time travel that involve quanta particles (can't remember the name of the particular ones) that appear to move forward and backward in time and the possiblity of sending information (in the form of basically a downloaded human) along the route that those particles travel through quanta space. Anyone who's seen the Michael Crichton movie "Timeline" or read the book would know exactly what I'm talking about, that book was based off of current scientific knowledge concerning timetravel through quanta space, the only difference between the book and RL is that we haven't done it yet.

For a quick lessen in basic quantum theory you can visit this site: http://library.thinkquest.org/3487/qp.html

I don't know as much as alot of people on the subject but I've been fascinated with quantum theory ever since I learned of it's possiblities way back in highschool and I hope to live long enough to see the tech advances myself.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:51 am
by new.vogue.nightmare
I can travel through time--I lie down and close my eyes and relax, and when i open them again it's a few hours later than when I closed them! :D

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:52 am
by thingnumber2
I can travel forward in time as well...watch me...I'm doing it right now....it's pretty cool huh?