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Hey, I'm wondering if there are any places that could teach someone who knows nothing about programming up to a skill level where I could make lil apps for myself. I've heard Java and VB are the easiest to learn and am probably looking to learn java more than VB (so i can make greasemonkey scripts for things) but most tutorials I've looked up start off assuming you have some knowledge of a language.

Any halp will be appreciated

Been thinking about learning java script myself. If only for, as you also imply, shits and giggles. However, I also haven't bothered to much to try.

PYTHON is a good language for beginners, and there's quite a few newbie guides out there.

BlueNine wrote:Hey, I'm wondering if there are any places that could teach someone who knows nothing about programming up to a skill level where I could make lil apps for myself. I've heard Java and VB are the easiest to learn and am probably looking to learn java more than VB (so i can make greasemonkey scripts for things) but most tutorials I've looked up start off assuming you have some knowledge of a language.

Any halp will be appreciated

Your first lesson: Java != Javascript

Java is programming language, which runs independent of a browser, however may be used to create applications that are emedded in a browser (Java Applets). Java source code needs to be compiled into machine code before it can be executed. Java was created before Javascript, and thus Javascript was named after it in an attempt to "ride on the coattails" of Java's success, as well as being due to some trival similarities between the two syntaxes.

Javascript a scripting language which was created to allow web pages to be interactive. Javascript is almost always used in a web browser, however there a few exceptions. Javascript source code is saved as it is and interpreted in real-time when it is loaded, for example into a web page.

Greasemonkey scripts are written in Javascript, which is one of the easiest to learn (for me) languages I have encountered. Additionally, there is a wealth of information on the internet about every aspect of JS due to its widespread use on the internet.

To learn Javascript with minimal commitment and effort, I would suggest one (or both) of the two following starting points:

http://www.javascriptkit.com/javatutors/primer1.shtml
http://www.w3schools.com/js/default.asp

BASIC.

*smacked by every single programmer in the audience*

GranAttacker wrote:BASIC.

*smacked by every single programmer in the audience*

If you're writing a roguelike.

This programming language is the easiest and 1337est one, period.

On a more helpful note, if you don´t find anything online, go to a library and see if they have one of these "... for dummies" books.

Pah, that's nothing...

Bah and there was me hoping that they were the same...so if I want to be able to make lil apps that I run from my desktop I need to learn Java and if I want to be able to do this greasemonkey shabaz I need to learn Javascript?

From 1 thing to learn to 2

lordcooper wrote:PYTHON is a good language for beginners, and there's quite a few newbie guides out there.

Its also a very old but tell maintained language that is good for professionals too. Its free to program in and there is a plugin for Eclipse called pydev which makes developing in it easier.

Could also get http://www.c-jump.com/ to help you learn the basic flow of code.

BlueNine wrote:Bah and there was me hoping that they were the same...so if I want to be able to make lil apps that I run from my desktop I need to learn Java and if I want to be able to do this greasemonkey shabaz I need to learn Javascript?

From 1 thing to learn to 2

You can write desktop applications in Javascript using Adobe AIR as a platform. Working example: http://joo.freehostia.com/cantrspy/2.4.7/.

Try C#, it's very beginner-friendly IMO.

I am starting with Phrogram, its been really helpful in learning the basics of programming and will be helpful in transitioning into future programming languages.


http://phrogram.com/

BlueNine wrote:Hey, I'm wondering if there are any places that could teach someone who knows nothing about programming up to a skill level where I could make lil apps for myself. I've heard Java and VB are the easiest to learn and am probably looking to learn java more than VB (so i can make greasemonkey scripts for things) but most tutorials I've looked up start off assuming you have some knowledge of a language.

Any halp will be appreciated

I personally recommend VB if you are looking to make easy applications that work on windows. If you are looking more towards online type programs then java might be better...

You can download VB Express for free and get started. It has very indepth tutorials for begginers that is included with the program. VB is lots of fun and easy to use.

Assembly? XD