Cantr II Discussion Forum

Well, I thought since we all have very different opinions, I thought it would be fun to talk about morality of things.

This quote comes from the Firefly: Objects in Space;

EARLY: You oughta be shot. Or stabbed. Lose a leg. To be a surgeon, you know? Know what kind of pain you're dealing with. They make psychiatrists get psychoanalyzed before they can get certified, but they don't make a surgeon get cut on. That seem right to you?

So tell me what you think?

from a realistic perspective, surgery is a bit different..mostly because, alot (not all) of surgeries are painless, and doing something like that would hamper the surgeon's ability to do surgery....from a more psychological perspective, it makes sense...

So like, master surgeon would've had to have a major surgery? Nah...doesn't work. hehe, wrong instance. But here's an interesting thing to bring up. I just finished reading Starship Troopers(again). In the book, in order to be a citizen, vote, or run for any politcal office, you first have to serve a term in the military. The reason being, you cannot be running a government of a nation until you done one of the greatest things you can do, put yourself between the enemy and the land you love. Also, the government works because all the aggressive people are citizens and like the system while all the civilians have never done anything violent really. lol, thoughts? I don't think I put it as well as the author, but I think I got my point across.

I'd have to say that it isn't the same thing...psychiatrists getting psychoanalyzed is to make sure that that crazy people aren't working with crazy people, not so that they know what the process is like from a patients point of view.

And that funny, I just finished "Starship Troopers" again the other day also...I don't know how many times I've read it, but I think that was like #8 or so...I think that Robert A. Heinlein makes some very good points about our society in it and I consider it one of the best fiction books I've ever read...and it was written in 1959.

Haha that's weird. You didn't read ender's game or a john grisham book before you reread starship troopers did ya? lol, j/k that would be really weird. Anyway, yeah. What does everyone think about that kind of society? Where people who have served in the military are the only ones with the rights to vote and run for governments positions?

Ender's Game...another damn good book, and I like Grisham, but haven't read either for a few years now.

Rev. Dexter: "I didn't think so, but if I was wrong, I was wrong. I'd rather do something, and make a mistake than be frightened and be doing nothing. That's the problem back home. Folks have been conned to thinking they can't change the world, have to accept what is. I'll tell you something my friends. The world is changing every day, the only question is who's doing it."

from Babylon 5 "And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place"

What do you all think of this?

interesting, and true in a way...although sometimes doing nothing is the better choice then making a mistake, it's all relative to the situation ya know? oh, and about the starship troopers world, it's an interesting view point...especially the part about how civilization had deteriorated because the government became so lax about punishment...and then they started instituting whippings, where every crime was punished by public whipping, and murders were punished by death...and crime stopped becoming a problem....