Cantr II Discussion Forum

//Split to keep other post on topic, will turn into another "religion" or "evolution" thread no doubt. - Anti

I don't celebrate either Thanksgiving (been English) or Christmas (been Pagan), but I still have a sort of Christmas, just a celebration at the time when everyone gets the day off, and to keep traditions in the family alive.

Alot of people I know have stopped celebrating christmas and only celebrate Halloween instead, which is more like the "christmas" normal people celebrate for me anyway. Enjoy it if you want, just remember like all christian holidays it was stolen from the Pagans (Ie: prechristian traditions in those areas). (Except one which was stolen from somewhere else, can't remeber what religion though).

holloween was stolen frome the catholics. (old hallows eve, the holly day)

The name halloween is Catholic, the holiday is actually Samhain, a pagan festival where the spirit and mortal worlds run closer than the rest of the year. Just easier to use the more widly known chirstian names, If I wished you a Merry Saturnallia you'd give me a funny look.

meh, true enough. but easter...

Easter is a pagan Goddess of fertility, and that was her holiday first. Anyway this is getting more offtopic as it is so I'm splitting the thread.

are you sure?

give me a LINK!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eostre - See sources list at the bottom, not posting the lot.

Tis also why we get Easter eggs and the rabbit theme, due to the fertility thing. Whether this was right or a later mistake is debatable thought.

Pie, pretty much ALL of Christianity was taken from one pagan thing or another, as with Judaism, and everything else, really. There's like a hundred identical stories of a savior child being born, killed and rising from the dead from around that area. There's like ten stories about about a big flood which turned into Noah.

It doesn't matter what they used to be. It's what they is now.

Antichrist_Online wrote://Split to keep other post on topic, will turn into another "religion" or "evolution" thread no doubt. - Anti

I don't celebrate either Thanksgiving (been English) or Christmas (been Pagan), but I still have a sort of Christmas, just a celebration at the time when everyone gets the day off, and to keep traditions in the family alive.

Alot of people I know have stopped celebrating christmas and only celebrate Halloween instead, which is more like the "christmas" normal people celebrate for me anyway. Enjoy it if you want, just remember like all christian holidays it was stolen from the Pagans (Ie: prechristian traditions in those areas). (Except one which was stolen from somewhere else, can't remeber what religion though).

Whey, pagan, a girl at my school is a Wicka (Spelt right?)

But then again one girl at my school claims to be a Communist/Nazi (A kind of odd mix since they hated each other :S) But only that one was lying, as she is a little bit crazy, but you know

Wicca is generally considered a Pagan religion (just about any religions besides Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are usually considered to be Pagan beliefs).

Talapus wrote:Wicca is generally considered a Pagan religion (just about any religions besides Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are usually considered to be Pagan beliefs).

Umm... how about Buddhism, Scientology (Which is a stupid celebrity alien believeing "religion" for those of you who haven't heard of it), Hinduism, and ancient Greek and Roman mythology?

Look up the definition of Paganism:

* any of various religions other than Christianity or Judaism or Islamism
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=paganism

* Within a European Christian context, paganism is a catch-all term which has come to connote a broad set of not necessarily compatible religious beliefs and practices (see Cult (religion)) of a natural religion (as opposed to a revealed religion of a text), which are usually, but not necessarily, characterized by polytheism and, less commonly, animism. There is little organized "-ism" in paganism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism

* Belief in religions other than Christianity, especially ancient Greek polytheism, which was a non-revealed religion.
www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/artic ... nology.htm

Dharmic religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism are often excluded, but Paganism is a very broad term that is generally considered a catch-all.

Bhuddhism and Hinduism aren't pagan at all. They're full mainstream.

Pie wrote:holloween was stolen frome the catholics. (old hallows eve, the holly day)

Halloween (in which the dead rise from grave and the people dress up as the dead to sort of hide from them) is a Irish Celtic holiday (which means it was originally Pagan) that was kept after the Irish people converted to Catholicism mainly because it happens to fall on the weeks before All Saints Day (in which God grants all the lost souls on Earth the chance to go to heaven). At the time of converting, those people didn't see coincidence that the their holiday about the dead rising from the grave fell so closely to the day when God allows the lost souls to go to heaven.

In the 1850's on, during the Irish Catholic exodus of Ireland to America, this was many of the cultural things that they brought over. It has since been change to a kid friendly non-religious holiday.

Pie, pretty much ALL of Christianity was taken from one pagan thing or another, as with Judaism, and everything else, really. There's like a hundred identical stories of a savior child being born, killed and rising from the dead from around that area. There's like ten stories about about a big flood which turned into Noah.

It doesn't matter what they used to be. It's what they is now.


But, wich came first? old hollow's eve, or the... shenta... thing.


Not all. Jesus resurecting was a verry new idea at the time.

Theres over 200 storis about a big flood, the story of noa being one of them.

Hanika is an origonal religion. CRistnmass is origonal.

most of the holidays are taken frome other things, but beliefes and other things are origonal.

I think lent is origonal. HEY!!!

Mardi grass was stolen from the catholics. (hehe, got one)