Curfews

[Schme]

There is disrespect intended. Saying that there is no disrespect doesn't take away the disrespect. When someone says no offence, but... Usually what they say is offence, and they mean it to be.

Well, not in this case.

And like I said, if someone's offended by something not meant to offend them, well, as they say in my homeland "Tough shit, buddy." or something to that effect. And people sincerly mean it.

Anyhow, I think we've all said what we've had to say, it looks to me. We've all be just repeating ourselves, it seems.

I have be to say, I agree with West, except that I don't think you've place to tell them not to have children. As long as their good father, why bother them, eh?

[west]

There is disrespect intended. Saying that there is no disrespect doesn't take away the disrespect. When someone says no offence, but... Usually what they say is offence, and they mean it to be.

Well, not in this case.

And like I said, if someone's offended by something not meant to offend them, well, as they say in my homeland "Tough shit, buddy." or something to that effect. And people sincerly mean it.

Anyhow, I think we've all said what we've had to say, it looks to me. We've all be just repeating ourselves, it seems.

I have be to say, I agree with West, except that I don't think you've place to tell them not to have children. As long as their good father, why bother them, eh?

Because they're like 14.

As Jack Handey says, "I believe in making the world a better place for our children, but not for our children's children. Because I don't think children should be having sex.:

[Schme]

I disagree.

As long as you're a good father, I see no problem. I know many good young fathers.

But the other side of it is, if you can't take care of you're kids, don't have any, no matter how young or old you are. If you can take care of you're own bussiness, power to you.

[Joshuamonkey]

I'm sick of people using age as a reason to say my opinion isn't worth anything.

[Schme]

I agree. People should go for substance, not age.

But even if people do that, non-biase doesn't make up for lack of stuff. I'm not saying that you do, I'm just saying, if people don't like or agree with you, or whatever, you're age won't change it, you know?

[west]

I'm sick of people using age as a reason to say my opinion isn't worth anything.

No, I'm using your age to say you shouldn't be having kids. And the Mormon church I think would agree.

But there is an undeniable benefit to age, in that it gives real-world experience (hopefully) and the added perspective of more years on the planet (again, hopefully). Now, I know some really mature teenagers, and some really immature "old" people, but given an average person, he or she is liable to be more mature at 16 than 13, at 20 than 16, and at 30 than 20. But I suppose that's a best-case scenario.

If you want proof--sorry, evidence--go look at my first posts on the Yahoo! boards or here. Maybe I haven't gotten much more mature, but I have at least gotten better at expressing my thoughts.

[Schme]

It's really a matter of experience. By default, an older person will have experienced more than a younger one, however, an old sober factory worker won't have quite the same knowledge as a young crack addict, or vice versa.

It depends.

[west]

That's why I said that any given person would be, on average, more knowledgeable later in their life. I didn't say 'more knowledgeable than a younger person'.

[Schme]

No you didn't.

[west]

But there is an undeniable benefit to age, in that it gives real-world experience (hopefully) and the added perspective of more years on the planet (again, hopefully). Now, I know some really mature teenagers, and some really immature "old" people, but given an average person, he or she is liable to be more mature at 16 than 13, at 20 than 16, and at 30 than 20. But I suppose that's a best-case scenario.

Yes I did.

[Schme]

I disagree.

[west]

Then I don't care.

[Joshuamonkey]

Then whats wrong with older people making the decisions for kids?

[west]

What does that have to do with anything?

Depending on the age, of course some decisions should be left to the adult--but that amount gets less and less as you get older and able to make your own decisions.

[Joshuamonkey]

What does that have to do with anything?

Sorry, just thinking about that discussion in the Religion topic, which I stopped reading a couple weeks ago.