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Postby buddyhall » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:36 pm

toon wrote:Think, if the water bursted from the earth there was so much preassure, I'm sure there was enough of it to mess up some layers pretty deep in the ground.

And so now you are saying that an all-knowing all-powerful God can't bypass the laws of physics?


Toon it's ok brother I was a dear friend of your char "TOON" hows the company going?

Anyways my point was these people say how we need God because we are weak of mind or whatever but it takes a strong person to defend there beliefs and it's nice to see Altruism isn't dead I thought I might be the last one :P lol
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Postby toon » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:40 pm

Were you the one Buddy?

It does take a lot to stand up for what you believe. Definately harder some places than others.
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Postby Torkess_theCommie » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:44 pm

I believe in....























Myself! :D
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Postby CantrFreak » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:22 am

Religion was used to explain events in the past and how one should live. It is mostly irrelevant today.

I believe Jesus existed, I believe things in every religion are partly true. However, I doubt that every single thing happened of what is said. For example, Jesus coming back alive? Pfft- yeah right. Everybody was also executed on the cross back then too, only Jesus was the only one that was glorified.

For all you know, Christianity (and some other religions) could've been a way for some king to gain power or something. It was based off of some truth, such as a giant flood (though, again, not actually a world-wide flood but an INCREDIBLY LARGE one). The Ark may have existed, but not carried all those animals. There are probably millions and millions of species (if not billions) of animals, times that by two. Also, put into count the rebuilding of the populations. Noah was depicted as a homo-sapien, white, etc. Modern-age human basically so that couldn't have been too long ago. I'm sure the population couldn't have rebuilt that fast after that.

Also, Adam and Eve, that is just entirely stupid. They're both clean, homo sapiens, and stuff. WTF? They're white! I'm brownish, there are all those African Americans. Again WTF? Genetics could disprove that easily.

Christianity doesn't have a good history either with the Church, the stuff in Africa and Crusades. But whatever.. Unless some god popped up right in front of me, I will stand firm.

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By the way, Christians are just a build-on of Judaism. Islam is just a form of Judaism/Christianity in my opinon due to it being in a whole different region.

note: This is not ment to slander anybody, and so I am sorry if I offended you in any way. Thank you. :D
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Postby toon » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33 am

I believe Jesus was The Son of God and that he was perfect. He died the death of any a normal person, because he died in the place of normal people. That is why he rose again.

I still don't see proof of how it would be impossible to build the ark. You say it's impossible, but I don't see proof. In the bible it says what happened to make all the different colors and languages of people. Just read it recently actually.

Who said everyone in the bible was white? Jesus wasn't white. He was darker skinned.
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Postby CantrFreak » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:42 am

toon wrote:Who said everyone in the bible was white? Jesus wasn't white. He was darker skinned.


WTF. O.o I never heard that Jesus was black.

I mean white as in Caucasian. Have you ever seen and Indian or African?
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Postby toon » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:47 am

What do you mean?
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Postby Torkess_theCommie » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:07 am

I think it's just that Jesus was always depicted as some white dude in artwork.

Building an ark isn't impossible... just shoving 2 X millions of animals into a single ark seems impossible.
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Postby toon » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:16 am

Yes Jesus, as I hav seen him is almost always seen as a white person. He was born in the middle east though. He would be darker skinned.

But is building an ark big enough to hold all of them impossible?
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Postby buddyhall » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:22 am

and shorter people at the time in that area people where shorter jesus was prolly a short man maybe 5'10 if he was lucky and hairy.
Dark skinned I don't think so maybe somewhat from the rough weather but he would be more or less white not brown.
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Postby Dogonabun » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:22 am

toon wrote:But is building an ark big enough to hold all of them impossible?

Yes. If you count every single variation of beetle alone, the boat would be sinking from the weight.
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Postby toon » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:29 am

Well it depends. It says the the ark was made of gopher wood. No one really knows what gopherwood is so you can't say that it would definately sink. There are ways to keep big boats from sinking because of weight.
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Postby buddyhall » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:31 am

Dogonabun wrote:
toon wrote:But is building an ark big enough to hold all of them impossible?

Yes. If you count every single variation of beetle alone, the boat would be sinking from the weight.



I don't agree Birds and fish would be more or less ok,
large amounts of amphibians and other things would be fine maybe moses wasn't the only one with a boat didn't anyone else have boats I mean he must have told people about it wouldn't someone listen if God was telling him these things maybe people just wrote about him because he was the messenger (prophet) do you know what I mean.?
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Postby toon » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:33 am

No nowone else had a boat and no one else listened. It had never rained before then, so no one believed that water would fall from the sky.
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Postby buddyhall » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:40 am

ya but the current version of the bible has been edited many times over toon have you ever played the game where you whisper in the person next too you's ear and by the time it gets to the end person it's something totally different.
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