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Postby Pie » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:02 pm

Yea. Good think there havent been any terorist groups with cristianity. :D . wait.... the KKK.... right....

Hey dee? HAve you read the Quran(Sorry for spelling)? It has BUNCHES of plases(I'm shure in the bible it does to, but i cane smooth that over by saying JESUS CHANGED THE RULES SO THOSE DON'T APPlY.) were it says to kill peoplo who don't believ in Allah. I'm shure that the people who ARE muslim's are nice, but your religion leavs somthing to disire..
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Postby Mafia Salad » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:26 pm

I don't see anything wrong with the boycott. Newspapers and other sorts of media should represent opinions and fealing of the people who read them. News media is the voice of a country. So although the drawings doesn't represent the views of all of Denmark, it represented enough of the population that it was carried over to other newspapers all over Europe.

If 100 million muslims in the middle east boycotted the newspaper that odds are less than a dozen of them read, it wouldn't matter and nothing would change. If 100 million muslims boycotted the country that has a culture that finds this disrespect of their religion funny. Then it sends a statement.
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Postby Coramon » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:22 pm

The US constantly airs controversial things on television but nobody boycotts us. Are you saying because south park makes fun of , lemme see here.... EVERYBODY, everybody should boycott america?
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Postby deadboy » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:23 pm

I think the newspaper should be punished, not Denmark
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:29 pm

They cannot punish the newspaper. Danes are the only people who can do that. Therefore, they must prompt the Danes to act.
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:31 pm

KiNG KiLL wrote:Apparantley, to some, we here in Scandinavia are all the same... but... Chile??


The cartoons were published throughout Scandanavia aswell as all of western Europe after people saw that it was upsetting muslims. If they burned the Danish Embassy for something a private newspaper did, it wouldn’t be fair that they didn’t burn the others for the same reason. Also, most embassies are located in the same areas. There are neibhourhoods for embassies in most countries.

KiNG KiLL wrote:To us, this is so supernatural in every respet, in our way of living and thinking. It doesn't justify anything, but I just think you should be able to see it from the danes' side of things.


See, this here is what I man. It’s “Us” and “Them”. The muslim danes don’t count as danes, and the same all throughout Europe. They are not Swedes, they are immigrants. They are not the same as us as they are muslims. You can imagine how this makes muslim citizens feel.



Why boycott people? So they will listen. If the white majority Danes really do not support this newspaper, then they’ll be angry and outraged at it rather than the boycott. As I’ve said before, if the white danes want to show that they are not bigots, then they’ve got to kick some a.ss.




Pie, you say Christians do not burn down embassies. Since when are you the Pope, eh? What the fuck do you know? Don’t say what Christians do and do not do. That’s like saying politicians don’t visit hookers. Sure, most of them don’t, but you do not dictate or know of the actions of all politicians. Such sweeping generalizations are, quite simply, bullsh.it.

Also, Pie, nobody gives a damn that you believe Islam leaves “something to be desired”. Who the hell cares what you think? Muslims obviously don’t.

As for Islam having more violent teachings that Christianity, the exact opposite is true. I find it doubtful that you have ever studied the teachings of Christianity to any great length. Not that you should if they don’t interest you, but you should know things before you talk about it.

And like you say, the KKK. The Lord’s Resistance Army. The Nagaland Rebels. The list goes on and on.



Scuba, you’re saying things everyone already knows. Every religion, quite obviously, proffeses to be the only true one. Anything else wouldn’t make sense. Nobody here or anywhere is telling non muslims to convert to Islam. People are saying stop fuc.king with us, treat us like people, or there’s going to be hell to pay. And can you blame them? You have to get people to listen if they won’t do it intentionally.

Yes, Islam can and does dictate how things should be outside other countries. Every religion does. That’s what they’re about. You’re being foolish and ignorant. Think before you say things, guy.

Denmark, France, Germany, these countries are supposed to be “secular” countries. If they are not thereocratic Christian states, then why should muslims not be allowed to say how things should be?

And Scuba, you’ve no clue what Jihad means. Read about it instead of thinking about the image built up by the Yankee press monopolies. No offence intended, my friend. But you should know that the media lies. They are not interested in real news, only cool news. They’re businessmen, not ideologues.






Mafia, you got down what I mean. If the non muslim danes want to show how it is, they’ve got to do things.
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:31 pm

I’m going to really sum up what I’m saying here.



Over in Europe, people didn’t see the civil rights movement. Nobody witnessed what went down over here. People should really look at American history. There’s a lot to be learned.

When you oppress people to much, they thirst for revenge. If non muslim Europeans and their leaders don’t step up and start doing things, the muslims and non white people of west Europe are going to take the situation into their own hands.

People descended of Turks, of Arabs, of Africans, of Indians, they’re not doing well. They’re poor, they have trouble finding work, they live in ghettos. By ghettos I do not mean poor neighbhourhoods. Modern American slang, which has spilled over into Europe and Canada, uses the word Ghetto to say poor neighbhourhood. The reason for this is because most ghettos, like the ones in America, are in fact very poor. But poverty is not the biggest problem here. If I wanted to say slum, I’d say slum. But they live in ghettos, racially segregated. They are not treated like Germans or Frenchmen or like fellow countrymen by the others in the nations where they live. And this is not only new immigrants. People whose families have been there for generations suffer the same bigotry.

This breeds hopelessness. People who cannot get jobs see better opportunities in crime, feeding off the misery of others, taking from those who have worked hard to earn what they have. Livelihood based on misery is dangerous. It hurts society. It is a terrible thing.

Not only are they poor, and not only are they not treated equally to their countrymen, but these minorities find themselves, their principles, their ancestry openly insulted. They are told to “go home” by people when they complain about this. People say they are not worthy to live in the country because they cause so many problems. The police single them out, go after them, because it is the truth that a large number of them do in fact commit crimes. But seeing as they’ve the image of criminals and troublemakers, nobody listens when they cry injustice.

But what can one do but cause problems if they cannot get a good job? It’s like forcing oneself upon a women and then having them arrested for adultery.

All this makes them angry. It makes them no longer want to be what there supposed countrymen are. Who would want to be part of a group so disgusting? They begin to associate more with people of there own race and their own background rather than take any pride in their nation of birth. They see the majority as outsiders, people not like themselves, and not countrymen.

When these outsiders come into their neighborhoods and oppress them, tell them how to educate their children, tell them what is a proper family, tell them to shape up or ship out, attack them with their police force, and ridicule them openly, they become understandably upset.

In anger, they strike back, just as the outsiders have attacked them.

This further alienates their fellow countrymen. “What the hell? Who are these outsiders, attacking us? Who do they think they are? We must strike back!” and so they do.

In fear and compassion for their families and people, they organize themselves to protect their brothers and their people from the outsiders, just as any sensible and self respecting people would. They create militias, urban guerrilla fighters, militant hate groups. The outsiders do the same. Neo-Nazis, National Front, Skinheads. Things deteriorate.

Perhaps you have never heard of the New Africa Party, the Black Panther Party, over in Europe. These were militant groups that fought the outsiders, the whites, in America, protected blacks from oppression and struck back at the outsiders.


California is a grand example. CCO, an ideological prison gang founded by prominent Crips, controlled the Crips of the California prison system, at least to some degree. Black Crip gangs and black Blood gangs united with there own gangs in prison, protecting themselves, becoming very powerful. They must work together. They have to protect themselves from the prison guards and the whites.

Whites in prison, forced to protect themselves, created the Aryan Brotherhood. Many a white man goes to prison in California and comes out a full blown rascist. Who can blame them? When black people attack you, steal from you, rape you, you are obviously going to become very angry. You must, as a man, retaliate. Aryan Brotherhood comes to pass, protecting whites.

Same thing happens with Mexicans in California too.





This is history repeating itself. Groups are forming. People are arming themselves on both sides, not with guns, but with hatred and ideology created from hatred. If nothing is done, what happened in North America will repeat itself. But the situation is much more complicated. In Europe, there are so many different groups, it will be more difficult to move together. In America, a unifying man of piece saved the nation from countrywide racewar. Even he could not stop the massive amount of violence that took place, but without him, it is my opinion that we’d have a very different world over here. In Europe, there is no such man. If one does not arise, violence will take place, and violence shall be replied to with violence. West Europe is on the verge of a racewar between people of European descent. For the love of God do something.

Do not say I’m full of shi.t. Do you remember Bosnia? The Croat’s slaughter of the Serbs? The Serbian’s retalitation? Further, remember the bombs in London, the riots that raged all across France. This is coming.

Do something, or others will act before you, and it will be to late.

Good luck.


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Postby deadboy » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:33 pm

No im saying that the danes should punish the newspaper, or failing that the EU, that would stop all of it
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:35 pm

The EU doesn't enter into that.

Yes, the Danes should punish the newspaper. That's what the boycott is for. To get them to do it.
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Postby deadboy » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:35 pm

isnt denmark part of the EU?
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:36 pm

Yes, but the EU isn't for attacking newspapers.
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Postby deadboy » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:36 pm

well it could close it down couldnt it? Thats what i mean
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Postby Schme » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:38 pm

I don't think that legally it could. Besides, the EU isn't really a united force.

And I think Denmark might object. It can't really do that.
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Postby Stan » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:38 pm

To close down the paper would be limiting free speech.

But, to have the free market decide the paper's future means the will of the people will prevail.
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Postby deadboy » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:39 pm

hmm i guess
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