Communism - Good or evil?

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Postby deadboy » Fri May 25, 2007 4:04 pm

The older I get the more I see the fundemental flaws of every single form of government ever. The alternative? Anarchism. The problem? Our world is far, far, far too advanced both technologically and morally to ever uphold such a system, the moment it would be implemented there would be mass rioting, looting, murdering, and absolutely no-one in charge to put a stop to it. Our nuclear weapons would be set off and it would be the end of the world as we know it. Therefore, who knows if its merely my adolescence saying this, but it seems like we're in a lose lose situation where we can't go back to the better times but instead we're stuck between the contrasting evils of capitalist, islamic, or communist life due to an overwhelming human instict to be in power which works as primitive beings but fails when millions of lives are being controlled. Therefore, we're stuck, no-ones ever going to unanimously like any system that ever arises, and the only solution I can actually see is a post-apocalyptic world arising out of some end or another. However, my basic moral principles ingrained in me from birth cry out against the loss of life this would entail. Therefore, even in my mind its a lose lose situation

For example my physics teachers answer (Yes he was serious) is to make people pay to be able to have children, therefore lowering the population, as there's only so many people you can fit on the earth and we've gone way over it. My problem with this is that it would simply leave the rich in a purely capitalistic world that wouldn't run due to a lack of a workforce. Again, in my head I'm thinking "Then this would lead to a collapse of society, which would be a good thing". Then my moral centre shouts "But no, society can't collapse, because we've always had society, and well, where would we be without society, we'd be uncivilised beasts", and then I repeat. His other answer is to say to poor nations like africa that they've only a country that can hold fifty million people so why on earth are there a billion there? Just let the africans die off of starvation like overpopulated animals in the wild do to balance out an ecosystem and stop worrying about it. So, in reality I agree with him, but my moral centre says "But no, these are people, not animals, we can't just let them die". Then my reality says "But human beings are all just egocentric mildly more linguistic animals anyway". If you've ever read a book called 1984 I swear I operate a form of doublethink with my moral centre of my brain by forcing myself to forget the original idea then forgetting the process of forgetting. Anyway, quite simply, I just cannot put forward any difinitive answer. And yes, this is most likely just born of some sort of adolescent anxst but I like to think that most of what I have said is true, due to the fact that I haven't actually said anything

Just so that you don't have to read through the whole rambling post

The main moral is... morals in general are really bad things for humanity in general

The second moral is... there is no good form of government that actually works

The third moral is... people are always going to be in power of other people but we're never going to be able to do anything about it due to the massiveness of the earths population

The fourth moral is... Having argued so long and hard against God, I can at least see why people believe in him, as by doing so it at least allows you to have peace in ignorance by believing that there is some sort of perfect society you'll go to later, but just what the hell that society is and how the hell it would run without collapsing I've no idea

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Postby Pie » Fri May 25, 2007 5:04 pm

Deadboy, there are things in there that I agree with. But dang you just said the most controvertial thing ever.

But I will not comment, for fear of... starting another "religion" thread
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