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Postby The Sociologist » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:54 am

Well, I'm very sorry to hear about this. Nick was a very good strategy player who created devilish and highly ambitious characters who used to bounce up very speedily from the underside of the world. The cross-dressing Duke Adf of Adfia was fun to play alongside. We had actually begun a propane, iron and steel industry in the badlands of the outer Xiria area. Duke Adf would have been pleased to see the limestone arriving, I think.

Of course Adfia was surrounded by the usual do-nothing "town leaders" in their seventies presiding sleepily over the usual collection of bone-wielding newspawns. You know the sort of situation I mean....

Given how hard I work to find anyone whose characters display any drive or sense of danger whatsoever, and how utterly -boring- this game is for so many players so much of the time, I really think the PD could have decided otherwise in this case.
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:45 pm

I agree that Nick's style of roleplay added a lot to the game, and in that respect it is unfortunate that we had to make him stop playing. We cannot, however, allow some players to breach rules of the game simply because they play well. The rules are there to be kept, and once we have sufficient evidence that someone is breaching it, that player will be warned, or eventually banned. I hope we will eventually find more players that are similar to Nick, but play within the rules.

And yes, many players play this game in a boring fashion to my taste, but alas, tastes differ ...
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Postby Pie » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:00 pm

Ding dong the nick is dead, the wiked nick, the mean old nick, ding dong the evil nick is deaaaaaaaaad!!!!

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I agree that he will be missed by all, and i will have one more person to not debait with. Sorry nick about the wizerd of oz compairison. :P
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Postby ephiroll » Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:17 pm

Schme wrote:You know, it is strange. Nick was talking about how the Staff was exetremly corrupt, and then he's locked out. What a very odd co-incidence.


The staff was corrupt, Nick was in a couple departments :wink:

But really, he'll be missed despite his flaws.

Although, it didn't really come as a surprise, not as if it's the first time someone on staff has been up to something.
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Postby Schme » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:19 pm

True enough.
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Postby Schme » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:19 pm

Jos Elkink wrote:I agree that Nick's style of roleplay added a lot to the game, and in that respect it is unfortunate that we had to make him stop playing. We cannot, however, allow some players to breach rules of the game simply because they play well.



But didn't you bend the rules?
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:27 pm

Schme wrote:But didn't you bend the rules?


What do you mean?

Oh, you mean what I was talking about in Quillanoi? Yes, sometimes it was a bit in a grayish area. A long time ago, and never very seriously. Not quite of the sort Nick has been accused of.

We have always been quite lenient towards cheaters. Usually we give a warning, discuss the issue with the player, and often it's resolved that way. Sometimes we temporarily block, or order a character out of a town or something, and usually that does it. Sometimes someone is really banned, but let back in again a year later or something. Only in the most extreme cases (e.g. when the player is seriously breaching the rules and also totally uncooperative with the PD) do we seriously ban players.
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Postby Schme » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:40 pm

Yes, of course, but the fact remains that you did bend the rules, eh?

Not that it ended badly.

Personally, I think it was for the better. But it does make no sense to say it is never acceptable no matter how good the player when that is in fact not true.
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:29 am

Schme wrote:Personally, I think it was for the better. But it does make no sense to say it is never acceptable no matter how good the player when that is in fact not true.


I don't think the distinction is between good or bad players, but between small and serious rule breaches.

It's also kind of a silly idea to ban me from my own game ;) ... But it's definitely true that as the founder of the game, I should definitely give the right example, and I bettered my life already ;) ... Also, let me be clear about that, what I did in Quillanoi were not blatant capital rule breaches, but rather that I was sometimes operating in a gray area. I'm sure pretty much every player does that, since it's almost impossible to avoid.
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Postby Pirate Lass » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:40 am

Honestly, we'd be all hard pressed to find some paragon of virtue that hasn't walked that line... or crosssed it at least once.
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Postby Schme » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:55 pm

It would be foolish to even suggest you should be banned from your own game. But to say you must kick some players out and not others is for the rules isn't true.
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Postby Schme » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:01 pm

Pirate Lass wrote:Honestly, we'd be all hard pressed to find some paragon of virtue that hasn't walked that line... or crosssed it at least once.
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So what? That make it alright?

"I run a charity that helps alot of people, so it's alright for me to kick it with a few fourteen year old prostitutes every once in a while."

And besides, comparing real morality to this is stupid.

And using the little rolling eyes thing make you seem feeling all superior, which I doubt is what you're trying to come across as.
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Postby Jos Elkink » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:29 pm

Schme wrote:It would be foolish to even suggest you should be banned from your own game. But to say you must kick some players out and not others is for the rules isn't true.


I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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Postby Coramon » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:30 pm

Schme wrote:It would be foolish to even suggest you should be banned from your own game. But to say you must kick some players out and not others is for the rules isn't true.


I don't understand what you're trying to say.

I've stopped reading his posts. :D

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Postby Lauren » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:33 pm

I can't pass judgement until I find out -exactly- what Nick did. Until then, yay Jos! I think...
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