The (relative) dangers of marijuana

[Savanik]

Check the "withdrawal" part of the graph, Sav.

I checked out that part. And the rest of the graph. The whole thing smells fishy to me.

Rated one to six? One to six what?

This looks like a 'study' based on a questionairre. 'On a rating of 1 to 6, how would you rate your withdrawal symptoms to tobacco? How intoxicating do you find cigarettes?'

Studies like that have a number of problems with them, starting with subjective responses and just going on from there.

Sav

EDIT: Anyone ever die from an overdose of nicotene from cigarettes?

[formerly known as hf]

I disagree. Compared to other "drugs",

Ok - what I meant was comapred to other comparable drugs - i.e: tobacco

of course it's safer than crack and smack...

[Nick]

Six being the highest, lower than that being lowest.

These were ranked by Dr Henningfield of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, and Dr Benowitz of the University of California at San Francisco.

Now of course, addiction cannot truly be measured quantitavely, but the results look reasonable to me.

[formerly known as hf]

Now of course, addiction cannot truly be measured quantitavely

:)
Thankyou

[Nick]

I disagree. Compared to other "drugs",

Ok - what I meant was comapred to other comparable drugs - i.e: tobacco

of course it's safer than crack and smack...

Fair enough, it is hard to measure the cancer causing properties of marijuana.

But if everything that a study has shown to increase likelihood of cancer was made illegal... that would leave our grocery list much shorter, wouldn't it?

[formerly known as hf]

indeed - it would also require the disposal of the majority of our household items...

EDIT: topic split - the deviant discussion was taking up as much space as the original thread...

[Nick]

Now of course, addiction cannot truly be measured quantitavely

:)
Thankyou

But it is, as I said, based on the observations of people educated on the subject. It does fairly accurately depict what it is trying to depict.

[formerly known as hf]

as do the statistics that acuratly depict the dangers of marijuana - stats can depict what you'd like them to depict - but, personally, I would probably agree with the general jist of that graph

[Nick]

as do the statistics that acuratly depict the dangers of marijuana

You're no noobee debater. Let's see 'em!

[Cookie]

I'd disagree with cocaine. That stuffs amazing and harmless, unless you get addicted. (only from my experience though)

And you can technicly overdose on Pot. I know a girl who almost choked on her own vomit and heard of another who actualy did. It's an absaloutely rubbish drug anyway in my opinion.

[Sunni Daez]

I'd disagree with cocaine. That stuffs amazing and harmless, unless you get addicted. (only from my experience though)

And you can technicly overdose on Pot. I know a girl who almost choked on her own vomit and heard of another who actualy did. It's an absaloutely rubbish drug anyway in my opinion.

Not true...oh so not true...you need to read a bit more!!!

[formerly known as hf]

I'd disagree with cocaine. That stuffs amazing and harmless, unless you get addicted. (only from my experience though)

Only from your experience? - be thankful your experiences have been good so far

[Cookie]

No it is, it literally makes you feel like your on top of the world. I reckon cocaine could increase your chances of passing a job interview like 200%

[ephiroll]

EDIT: Anyone ever die from an overdose of nicotene from cigarettes?

Actually, yeah. Those cigarettes from Japan called "Waves" were implicated in the deaths of more then a dozen people before they were removed from the market about 6 years ago. They were causing lung failure and heart attacks because of the level of nicotine in them.

It's possible to kill someone with a pack of cigarettes, if you know how.

from NICOTINE POISONING by Abu Bakar Abdul Majeed PhD

Nicotine is one of the most lethal poisons known. At present, virtually all toxicities involving nicotine are being reported from cigarettes. More than 90% of toxic exposures from cigarettes in the United States are reported in children less than 5 years of age. A recent report from Germany states that most of the cases are within the 7 month to 2 year old age range. In Nigeria, a herbal drug containing nicotine increases morbidity and mortality in this paediatric group. Ingestion of 1 cigarette (or 3 but ts) or drinking saliva expectorated by tobacco chewer (which is often collected in a can) should be considered potentially toxic for children. In adults, suicidal ingestion of nicotine-containing pesticides, and occasionally after cutaneous exposure to ni cotine, such as tobacco harvesters can cause poisoning. Green tobacco sickness (GTS) is an illness resulting from dermal exposure to dissolved nicotine from wet tobacco leaves. GTS is characterised by nausea, vomitting, weakness, dizziness and sometimes f luctuations in blood pressure or heart rate. Nicorette intoxication is uncommon.

[Savanik]

from NICOTINE POISONING by Abu Bakar Abdul Majeed PhD

Nicotine is one of the most lethal poisons known. At present, virtually all toxicities involving nicotine are being reported from cigarettes. More than 90% of toxic exposures from cigarettes in the United States are reported in children less than 5 years of age. A recent report from Germany states that most of the cases are within the 7 month to 2 year old age range. In Nigeria, a herbal drug containing nicotine increases morbidity and mortality in this paediatric group. Ingestion of 1 cigarette (or 3 but ts) or drinking saliva expectorated by tobacco chewer (which is often collected in a can) should be considered potentially toxic for children. In adults, suicidal ingestion of nicotine-containing pesticides, and occasionally after cutaneous exposure to ni cotine, such as tobacco harvesters can cause poisoning. Green tobacco sickness (GTS) is an illness resulting from dermal exposure to dissolved nicotine from wet tobacco leaves. GTS is characterised by nausea, vomitting, weakness, dizziness and sometimes f luctuations in blood pressure or heart rate. Nicorette intoxication is uncommon.

So, in other words, if you use cigarettes in a manner in which they weren't intended (by ingesting them), they can be toxic, particularly in small children (who are naturally inclined to stick most anything in their mouths).

Or if you're swallowing a nicotene-based pesticide in an attempt to kill yourself...

Or if you work in someplace that manufacures tobacco and don't follow the safety rules...

Somehow, I still fail to see how cigarettes can be considered worse than HEROIN.

Sav