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Postby Snake_byte » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:21 pm

schme wrote:Construction equipement is not hard to come by. Alot of companies sell it. I believe quite fervently that two people very well could have done it on their own with the help of a few bank loans.

As for connections to get them out of the country and whatnot, well, that's a different story.


No... All very bad moves... With a bank loan especially. First of all if it was that easy it would have actually been done a LONG time ago. You can't just go to the bank and be like "lend me money". They'll never lend you money without knowing what it's for, who you are, and without you paying some of it upfront.

Cops would do a search of the surounding area for recently rented or bought machinery immediatly because there is no way they'd believe one or two guys did it with a shovel.

You need SOMEONE and not SOME COMPANY to finance this sort of thing. You need the people who ALREADY have the equipment. Now a FRIEND or friend of a friend with a construction company would be good. He'd get a cut of the job and it wouldn't be written anywhere that the machinery was rented.

Then you need the people to actually make it happen. People who can get you blueprints and other information to know exactly when to start tunneling upwards.

There is no way some two-bit, grade 10 eduction, highschool dropout, alone with one friend, could have accomplished this.
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Postby McManus » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:27 pm

Isnt that from that movie..."Ladykillers" or something like that?
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Postby Snake_byte » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:43 pm

They do it to some guys house in Venace, Italy in the movie "The Italian Job"...
To the crown jewels in "Johnny English*
I'm sure there are others
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Postby Tensei » Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:10 pm

Gotta be an insurance scam. No way a back with 65 million in assets on the floor doesn't have some sort of motion sensor. You can't just walk around in a closed, locked, secure vault without the people that run it knowing your there. If you have 65 mil sitting around you have security cameras, how long did it take to take all that back through the tunnel. Noone saw anything? Ok so they bribe the security guard. Bad move cause now the bank/police know exactly who to lean on to give you up.

It's not like they left the door unlocked so the teller down the way could cash a 15 million dollar check if she had too.

If you got that kinda asset in the vault, it's going to be from businesses. And a business won't let you hold 2.2 mill of there money unless they see that it is secure. Hell I don't have 2.2 mill and I wouldn't give it to a bank that doesn't have a security camera in there vault!

These security devices are designed so that if they are tampered with, someone knows. Ok so you knock out the motion sensor, an alarm goes off in the security room because the ping of electrical current wasn't returned. Someone had to know something was going on.
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Postby Snake_byte » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:24 am

Well they got away and I haven't heard about it since...
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Postby Schme » Sun Aug 21, 2005 10:41 am

You're right, Snake_Byte, quite right. Probably a loan shark, then. The bank, what was I thinking?

Although I have known people to trick banks into believing the loan was for something else than it actually was. End up going to prison in the end, but they did it.

Yeah, I'm guessing they stole stock or bonds. Even the largest of banks don't really have that kind of cash on hand.
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Postby mordiken » Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:50 am

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Postby mordiken » Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:52 am

They removed five containers of 50-real notes, with an estimated value of 164.755.150 reais (US$69.8 million, £38.6 million, €56 million), initially reported as 156 million. The money was uninsured, as a bank spokeswoman stated the risks were too small to justify the insurance premiums. The burglars managed to evade or disable the bank's internal alarms and sensors; the burglary remained undiscovered until the bank opened for business on the morning of Monday, August 8.

Also the money was not sequential because they were evaluating it for its condition to see if it was fit to be put back in circulation making the money almost completely impossible to trace. Very well planned and executed.
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Postby Snake_byte » Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:45 pm

Those poeple will be living it up for the rest of their lives and I take my hat off to them
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