An actual election...

[Psycho Pixie]

For this poll, I (seriously) voted for Kerry- I wish there was such thing as a 'presidential probationary' period...or something although that'd never happen.

its called the first term in office. if we dont like him, the first 4 years were probation, he doesnt get re-elected.

i voted for jos.... but would vote for Kerry for real. didnt get registered, didnt vote. grrr. now i cant complain about the guy who got elected.


Pixie

[The Industriallist]

i voted for jos.... but would vote for Kerry for real. didnt get registered, didnt vote. grrr. now i cant complain about the guy who got elected.


Pixie

Depends...which state? I'm sure you've said...but if it went Dem. anyway, your not-vote didn't count any more than your vote would have.

[Mavsfan911]

Did anyone see the headline in the Daily Mirror? (A British Newspaper)
Something like "How can 59 million people be so DUMB?"
The number was exact though, and I'm too lazy to check what it was.

[Psycho Pixie]

california. thats my state....

people had a choice between to not so different guys, I cant blame some of them for voting for bush, at least we know what he will do for the next 4 years.

I still would have voted for Kerry. hes not quiet so anti... everything.

pixie **ps, like my new forum pic? hehehe is me.

[Spider]

Probably my eyes, but too small..Still...niiiice

...I thought the other one was you but in a like costume...maybe i shouldn't think like that anymore

[Psycho Pixie]

nope, the other one was a drawing.... carton charry from a comic book actually. Dawn I think. but that one is me... woohoo! i got all sexied up.


pixish

to keep it on topic, i still would vote for kerry.

[Spider]

Yes you did ( i tried to get a bigger smile, oh well)

Well, i voted for Nader here, but i voted Kerry. I wanted to vote for Nader....but he had no chance of winning, so i don't want to feel bad for Kerry if he lost Cali, unlikely, so i just voted for him.

[Cheshierekat]

I voted Bush. Kerry scared the crap out of me for some reason.

[Spider]

Did anyone see Kerry's speech where he says he gives up?...or whatever it is. I heard he was like very....emotional....not crying but strong words or something...not too sure..just something about his speech was very heart felt, yeah, heart felt...anyone?

[Pirate Lass]

Hey pixie - maybe next time I take more photos for you I'll dress you up and paint you like the last one. Though I must say these turned out well.

Just remember to wash the paint off next time before you put your flannel pj's on and send me into convulsions of laughter. Or next time I will take that photo for blackmail!

[Pirog]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/paulroutledge/

Hehe, an article worth reading...although it is riddled with quite a lot of disdain for American "prairie folk"

He definately has a point about the fear thing...

[Psycho Pixie]

Hey pixie - maybe next time I take more photos for you I'll dress you up and paint you like the last one. Though I must say these turned out well.

Just remember to wash the paint off next time before you put your flannel pj's on and send me into convulsions of laughter. Or next time I will take that photo for blackmail!

i forgot the makeup was still on, i was so busy with my cantr charrys lol i told you to take a picture, so if you ever do it cant be blackmail because i wanted a pic of me being silly.

pixie

[rklenseth]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/paulroutledge/

Hehe, an article worth reading...although it is riddled with quite a lot of disdain for American "prairie folk"

He definately has a point about the fear thing...

I'm sorry to say, Pirog, but if this is where you are getting your information then someone should tell you that this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

First of all, polling of people shows that people based their vote on 'values and morals' something I know Europeans have a hard time understanding which is why I think Europeans don't understand America. My American History teacher in High School use to say that 'if you're going to understand America than you got to understand the religious portion of America because that is what drove people to America and has driven the country throughout history'.

There are a few reasons why Bush won;

1. Rural and Suburban voters voting in mass (in some states the largest number ever) who tend to be very religious, moderate Conservative and feel they are alienated by godless Liberals who want to take their guns away and abort their children. For example find a map of New York State where it shows this years presidental election county by county and you will see that most of the counties in New York State were won by Bush and do the same with California while Kerry won in in the major Urban areas like New York City or Los Angeles. Now if New York City wasn't part of the New York State (every upstaters' dream) then Bush would have won New York State and the same could be said for California.

2. The Democrats are or are painted as being to much to the left of the political spectrum. Most Americans aren't extreme Conservatives or Liberals but are moderate and tend to vote for what they think is the most moderate candidate. I guess Bush appeared more moderate to people than Kerry did.

3. The Republicans since Reagan have become more and more moderate every year. Look at Guilliani, Swartznegger(sp?), and McCain who are pretty much social liberals but yet right now they are being promoted as top people in the Republican Party and the future leadership. In fact don't be surprised if you see Guilliani run for President in 2008 with McCain as his running mate.

So you see, Bush won not because of terrorism, War in Iraq, or the economy but because of values and morals which most Americans want to see a moderate agenda on for the most part. So the Democrats are going farther and farther to the left while the Republicans are moving farther and farther to the middle for the most part. Plus, the Democrats lack any real leadership while the Republicans have pretty firm leadership right now and for the future.

My prediction for 2008 is that as long as Bush doesn't really fuck up somewhere and is able to bring back the economy is that if Guilliani and McCain do run that they will win in a landslide election. Both are very moderate, Guilliani was once a Democrat and would be able to gain support from moderate Democrats, Guilliani would be able to address the Urban problems and possibly gain some support from Urban areas, McCain would be able to address the Rural and Suburban problems, and the only problem would be that the religious right might not like them as ideal candidates due to their social beliefs but would definitely be far better to them than would be a leftist Democrat.

In order for the Democratic Party to come back after this near death blow of an election year they will have to move back toward the center, cut off their ties with the Hollywood elitist like Michael Moore and this list could go on forever, and find some leadership or I am going to predict in the next two decades that the Democratic Party will simply die out like the Federalist Party in the 18th Century before the Feel Good Era in America. And even though I don't like the two-party system here it is still loads better than a one-party system.

Oh, by the way, I did see Moore's 9/11 movie (I guess he did have good argument for the whole Bush and Saudi connection but no real evidence that actually links Bush and the Saudis; and the the rest of the movie was simple bullshit or sensationalism) so are you now going to see the counter documentaries "Farenhype 9/11" or "Celius 4/11"?

[The Industriallist]

Now if New York City wasn't part of the New York State (every upstaters' dream) then Bush would have won New York State and the same could be said for California.

If that's there dream, why doesn't it happen? I think I can safely say NYC would love to cut them loose as well. It would hurt the Dem. on national elections...but have you ever read about how badly NYC gets ripped off on the state level? without NYC the whole rest of teh state would be bankrupt and sinking.

2. The Democrats are or are painted as being to much to the left of the political spectrum. Most Americans aren't extreme Conservatives or Liberals but are moderate and tend to vote for what they think is the most moderate candidate. I guess Bush appeared more moderate to people than Kerry did.

again...
I thought Kerry was very nearly running as a Republican. He was more liberal than Bush...But Bush isn't anything like a moderate. I'd lean more towards calling him a radical.

3. The Republicans since Reagan have become more and more moderate every year. Look at Guilliani, Swartznegger(sp?), and McCain who are pretty much social liberals but yet right now they are being promoted as top people in the Republican Party and the future leadership. In fact don't be surprised if you see Guilliani run for President in 2008 with McCain as his running mate.

And yet, the hyper-conservative Bush, who verges on fundamentalist and guts non-religeous social programs... They might run moderate next election, but they sure haven't been moderate lately.

[griogal]

Bush won because he had phoned his golf buddie Osama and asked him to dress up again and send a new videoclip to the world. Scared the Americans to death.