Cantr Themed Morrowind Mod

[N-Aldwitch]

Wow, how much does £100 convert into for an Aus or US dollar? Cuz over here in Aus, it would cost anywhere between 700-1,200 $$ to run that game on a laptop.

[formerly known as hf]

£100, surely £300

£100 might get you a cobbled-together PC, but not a laptop...

[FierceRabbit]

Never buy a computer just to be able to play one video game. Now, if you want to play games a lot, that's different.

[deadboy]

It's a great game! I never made it through the main quest, mind, but it's fun. And you can get the original game and both expansions for about $20.

As far as laptops--I've no idea. I'm happy with my Dell. If you want to play games (Not just Morrowind--and I have no idea whether I'd ever be able to make this mod in the first place, for the record!) make sure you get a decent graphics card.

I don't buy games anymore. I downloaded Morrowind + expansion packs off Torrentspy in a day. I installed Oblivion off my friend and then cracked it using www.gamecopyworld.com. I downloaded the oblivion expansion packs off Torrentspy in a day. Buying games is for the rich. I, at this moment in time, have a fiver. I really, really, need to get myself as saturday job

(I've basically no money at the moment because I saved up for awile to buy a wii, by the way, so that basically drained all the money I had, plus all the pocket money I'll get until september)

But anyway, if you've an average to good internet connection, you don't need to buy any games, and if you've a bad one, you at least don't have to buy -old- games

[formerly known as hf]

I really don't understand pirating.

If you have enough time to play the games you pirate, you have enough time to get of your lazy arse and work to earn enough money to buy the damned games.

I also don't understand the mentality behind it. Sure, if your a dirty teeth, fine - but just 'cos it's easy, doesn't make it ok?

If you wouldn't lift a CD or a game from your local store, why is it ok to do it over the 'net?

[FierceRabbit]

I've been considering pirating Oblivion.

Now, that isn't a permanent, thing, and I would buy a legitimate copy so that I can install the expansion packs (I assume they're smart enough to make that necessary!) along with ethical reasons. My situation is, while I can afford to buy a game I know I'll play, I can't afford to buy a game that my computer may not be able to run. If I download Oblivion and find out it runs like crap on my system, well, into the recycle bin it goes.

I just wish they came out with a demo! Then the above wouldn't even be an option.

[frenchfisher]

Morrowind... I don't really play anymore.

Oblivion... doesn't work on the computer I use mainly, and only barely works (on Very Low graphics yay no shadows or darkness whatsoever!) on another computer I have access to.

The Sims 2... now we're talking I have been quite thoroughly obsessed with it since it came out (and with The Sims before that). In fact, I was in a "Sims 2 phase" until last Thursday, when I received Victoria for my birthday... who knew that playing effing Uruguay would be so... much... fun! >_< (By 1935 I got Uruguay up to Great Power status, approximately on the level of Italy, which I think is an accomplishment. About 10 million people lived in Uruguay proper, approximately three times the real modern population. And I also conquered half of Bolivia, and annexed all of Italy's colonial possessions... which included most of present day RL Mali, Niger, Senegal, and Guinea. Okay, sorry, can you tell which game phase I'm on now )

[frenchfisher]

Morrowind... I don't really play anymore.

Oblivion... doesn't work on the computer I use mainly, and only barely works (on Very Low graphics yay no shadows or darkness whatsoever!) on another computer I have access to.

The Sims 2... now we're talking I have been quite thoroughly obsessed with it since it came out (and with The Sims before that). In fact, I was in a "Sims 2 phase" until last Thursday, when I received Victoria for my birthday... who knew that playing effing Uruguay would be so... much... fun! >_< (By 1935 I got Uruguay up to Great Power status, approximately on the level of Italy, which I think is an accomplishment. About 10 million people lived in Uruguay proper, approximately three times the real modern population. And I also conquered half of Bolivia, and annexed all of Italy's colonial possessions... which included most of present day RL Mali, Niger, Senegal, and Guinea. Okay, sorry, can you tell which game phase I'm on now )

[deadboy]

I've been considering pirating Oblivion.

Now, that isn't a permanent, thing, and I would buy a legitimate copy so that I can install the expansion packs (I assume they're smart enough to make that necessary!)

It's not neccessary, a downloaded version is precisely the same as a bought version

And HF, I'm still at school, so I really don't have time for a job (I'm at school from 8:20 to 6:00 weekdays, I have sports matches on a saturday morning, I play tennis 2:00 to 7:00 on a saturday afternoon and leave the evenings free for going out, and then on a sunday I play tennis from 1:00 to 4:00 and have to spend a fair bit of the time around it doing preps. No time for a job in there that wouldn't leave me with absolutely no free time whatsoever). I therefore have to get things as cheaply as possible, so where I can get things free, I do

[formerly known as hf]

Pirating is getting games for free the same as wandering into a shop and walking out is getting it for free.

Now, if you have no qualms about doing that, then it's another discussion.

But if you wouldn't steal, why justify pirating?



I think the reason this particularly winds me up, is that most of my favourite games are produced by very small companies who go through small publishers or publish in house.

I couldn't care less if someone rips C&C3 from EA, but I see so many people ripping off games where the people who make the games actually rely directly on sales to live...

[deadboy]

Now, if you have no qualms about doing that, then it's another discussion.

But if you wouldn't steal, why justify pirating?

I was having this discussion on the train yesterday. If you found a wallet in the street with £50 pounds in it, would you

a) Hand it into the police
b) Empty the wallet of money and then hand it into the police
c) Empty the wallet of money and then leave it on the street
d) Take the wallet

Now in this case the difference between b) and c) is very much like the difference between shoplifting and piracy. In b) the authorities would know who you were and so if anyone (ie. the shop) complained they were missing something you would be held responsible. Whereas in c) it would be someone else who handed the wallet in (the site offering the games) who would be held responsible for the money if anyone complained about it missing

I guess there's your difference between pirating and raw stealing (Since this is a theoretic example, I did in fact pick c) when discussing this on the train)

God -damn- I'm morally corrupt

Oh, and I don't really know any games made by small companies. The only games I have ever downloaded are oblivion (Bethesda Softworks, large company), worms (Team 17, large company), and I'm planning on downloading some of the Monkey Islands (Lucas Arts, large company). If I thought that downloading anything off the internet lost anyone money who actually needed the money I wouldn't do it. For example, music by David Ford, downloaded all his things off Itunes perfectly legally (I don't actually illegally download music anymore, haven't done for years) because he's a starting artist who does indeed need the money

Check him out by the way, I'm trying to spread the word of his music around my school at the moment, may as well here too - I sincerely apoligise for all the trouble I've caused by David Ford

Anyway.... sidetracked....

[BarbaricAvatar]

From my perspective, a lot of games are impossible to buy in the shops these days because they're so old. I refuse to use my card online as the number's been stolen in the past which leaves 2nd-hand shops and warez as the only ways to get hold of rarer titles.

If i can find a game in the shops, then i'll buy it, if i can't find it at any of the 3 places available (Music shop, Game shop, PC shop) then i figure the companies feel they can no longer make any profit from selling the game, which is why they don't anymore.

I don't think downloading games is the best way as you lose a lot of content from doing so, 99% of the time you lose all in-game movies, and the soundtrack which take a lot from the game. Buying is definately the best way, regardless of price. But if you really want a particular game that badly and it's no longer available in the shop, what else are you supposed to do?

I don't agree with downloading brand new titles regardless of what company publishes it, even though i sympathise with the EA-haters, especially for their lack of imagination and reliance on releasing endless sequels that are basically the same, just one year newer. But that's beside the point.

[deadboy]

I don't think downloading games is the best way as you lose a lot of content from doing so, 99% of the time you lose all in-game movies, and the soundtrack which take a lot from the game.

Never, ever happened for me

[formerly known as hf]

So, if someone walked into a store. Came out with a nicked copy of a game and offered it to you.

You'd be cool with that?

[BarbaricAvatar]

If the store was selling it, then i'd buy it from there myself. I tend to buy lots of games and not get round to playing them knowing that i might want to play them at some point in the future and it's quite possible they might not be available then. But that doesn't help me with older titles that i'd like to have but can't find in the shops anymore.

No i wouldn't buy a game from someone peddling it on the street, regardless of if it was on my wanted list.