History from different perspectives (The American Revolution
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Schme wrote:Personally, I don't recognize America's sovreignty. As far as I'm concerned, the so called "United States of America" is rebel held territory rightfully belonging to the British Crown.
Doesnt the fact that great britain recognises the USA invalidate that opinion?

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Zanthos wrote:But if you put it that way... as far as i am concerned all of europe rightfully belongs to Italy and the roman empire should be reinstated in all its former glory, complete with orgies and vomitariums!
Don't be rediculous. The Roman Empire was partitioned into two separate empires hundreds of years ago.
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Zanthos wrote:Doesnt the fact that great britain recognises the USA invalidate that opinion?
Not in the least.
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Dinosaurs were tresspassers on Her Royal Highnesses land who didn't pay taxes. That's why I got rid of them.
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Right after working on the Zine, I was finishing up an extended essay on the Seven Years War in North America, i.e. the effect of the War on indigenous populaces (e.g. the Iroquois Confederacy). As CJ was hinting at, Churchill ascribed this war as the "first world war" in the sense of it being fought from India to Europe to the Americas.
The French and Indian War was actually more like the start of it, with (ironically) George Washington's troop (under the British flag) firing the first shot against a French officer, Jumonville. This incident gave the French the excuse to declare war on the British, although in Europe it was not brought about for another two years (NB: the vast distances from the backlands of Pennsylvania to the Two Cities).
Indeed this theatre of the War in North America ended before the broader conflict with Wolfe's epic victory over Montcalm for all of Canada from the French on the Fields of Abraham, where both European Generals died in fighting (there is a famous painting of this as well as a text by a slightly dated Francis Parkman).
PM William Pitt, probably one of the finest England has seen, warned sullenly against the levying of taxes on their colonial brethren (and furthermore saw the drawing of the Line of Proclamation, angering the westward/wayward colonists). He literally died of stroke from it. A most captivating time of history.

Zanthos wrote:Didnt the 7 years war end with the french and indian war? Sure, the aftermath of that war saw the levying of said taxes but I wouldn't say the american revolution was the end of it.
The French and Indian War was actually more like the start of it, with (ironically) George Washington's troop (under the British flag) firing the first shot against a French officer, Jumonville. This incident gave the French the excuse to declare war on the British, although in Europe it was not brought about for another two years (NB: the vast distances from the backlands of Pennsylvania to the Two Cities).
Indeed this theatre of the War in North America ended before the broader conflict with Wolfe's epic victory over Montcalm for all of Canada from the French on the Fields of Abraham, where both European Generals died in fighting (there is a famous painting of this as well as a text by a slightly dated Francis Parkman).
PM William Pitt, probably one of the finest England has seen, warned sullenly against the levying of taxes on their colonial brethren (and furthermore saw the drawing of the Line of Proclamation, angering the westward/wayward colonists). He literally died of stroke from it. A most captivating time of history.

Effect (noun), not affect (verb).Pie wrote:
Wait, there was an unoficial first world war?
Or are you talking about the nepolianic wars?
CJ: No I'm talking about the Seven Years War (1756 to 1763) , multiple opponents fighting across continents including the campaigns against the French in North America. The affects of these war (including the state of the British Exchequer) had a direct impact on the American Revolution

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Zanthos wrote:Schme wrote:Personally, I don't recognize America's sovreignty. As far as I'm concerned, the so called "United States of America" is rebel held territory rightfully belonging to the British Crown.
Doesnt the fact that great britain recognises the USA invalidate that opinion?![]()
But if you put it that way... as far as i am concerned all of europe rightfully belongs to Italy and the roman empire should be reinstated in all its former glory, complete with orgies and vomitariums!
Not to mention that almost all the slavic countries would be in the possesion of the motherland(Russia).
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I dissagree. The eastern world belongs to the mongols, with the middle east contested betwean the mongols and macedonia and the arabs, Africa belongs to Mansa musa of that one empire... Malasia, south america belongs to spain, North america belongs to the indians, and Europe is contested between rome, the catholic church, and the Huns.
Australia belongs to the australians, becaus of there cool hats and accents.
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