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Postby Nom Pop » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:29 pm

Well first of all, I wasn't deciding for anyone, just sharing my concern. To be honest I did wonder, whether whoever that kid is, might be 14 now, instead of three.

Also, people like you really piss me off. Saying it's their call and all. What if some redneck decides it's best for their child to get a good beating every night instead of a bedtime story? Their call? I know it's not in my hands, but I like people being aware of certain things. For example that children do have rights (ie being protected), and that not everything a parent might decide is necessarily right.

I don't wear a mask in public, but I do get horribly annoyed when people just take random pics of their surroundings (including people) with their mobile phones without asking. Just because they can.

And yes, before you ask, I do have a problem with a lot of things that are going on. Just because everyone does it, doesn't mean it's normal or okay.

"kids, what choice DOESN'T their parent make for them? From what they eat, to who they can hang out with/play with, to on and on and on."

It's just unnecessary exposure. *shrugs*
And what *is* the point of doing it anyways?
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Postby Ryaga » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:41 pm

Nom Pop wrote:Well first of all, I wasn't deciding for anyone, just sharing my concern. To be honest I did wonder, whether whoever that kid is, might be 14 now, instead of three.

Also, people like you really piss me off. Saying it's their call and all. What if some redneck decides it's best for their child to get a good beating every night instead of a bedtime story? Their call? I know it's not in my hands, but I like people being aware of certain things. For example that children do have rights (ie being protected), and that not everything a parent might decide is necessarily right.

I don't wear a mask in public, but I do get horribly annoyed when people just take random pics of their surroundings (including people) with their mobile phones without asking. Just because they can.

And yes, before you ask, I do have a problem with a lot of things that are going on. Just because everyone does it, doesn't mean it's normal or okay.

"kids, what choice DOESN'T their parent make for them? From what they eat, to who they can hang out with/play with, to on and on and on."

It's just unnecessary exposure. *shrugs*
And what *is* the point of doing it anyways?
It is their call, as long as the beatings aren't out of spite and don't leave marks or permanent damage physical or mental. I was spanked. My parents don't decide my friends, what I eat, who I chill with and I don't know a parent like that. It's also alot harder to read bedtime stories or give beatings if you're not around often enough to do either.

I'm left to do what I like unless it's harmful to me. My parents don't force culture onto me, political beliefs, religious beliefs. If a parent wants to do anything like that, that's their call like it is for parents like mine to keep 'hands off' on things like that.

If anything people are over sheltered. People flip at nudity or curses. Something is only offensive if you let it be. There are some people that you wish a child never have to see, like someone dying, though if it's going to happen eventually why try to hide it?
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Postby Genevieve » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:28 pm

Nom Pop wrote:Also, people like you really piss me off. Saying it's their call and all. What if some redneck decides it's best for their child to get a good beating every night instead of a bedtime story? Their call? I know it's not in my hands, but I like people being aware of certain things. For example that children do have rights (ie being protected), and that not everything a parent might decide is necessarily right.

Hmm...please be aware, you have no idea who "people like you" IE ME is. You don't know anything about me or my views. While I have given you one small statement, this does not thus lead to the words you have put in my mouth. No interest in starting a flame war in any way so I will simply stop posting in this topic since I have no interest in getting upset at you. Just keep in mind that you really have no idea what I think/feel/believe and I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from speaking as though you do.

That's all. Adios.
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Postby Debsy » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:33 pm

Nom Pop wrote:Now I'm only reading this thread out of boredom.

But seriously. Doesn't anyone find it weird that people post pictures of *other* people in here? To me it seems kinda wrong. Especially when it's a child.

But maybe it's just me.


I am officially annoyed. If we go by your logic here, the child should be able to decide whether the parent shows the child's picture to a friend or not too. If a parent is proud of their child, they're gonna show off their pictures. End of story. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. You can't tell me that you would never show your child's picture off to a friend, a family member, or anything without first asking the child's permission. :roll:
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Postby Rebma » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:56 pm

The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.
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Postby Caesar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:04 am

Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.


Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.
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Postby Rebma » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:14 am

Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.


Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.

RIght, but that's your parents' choice to involve you in the decision making process, ya know? They still have the legal right to be able to determine what you do, in the end.
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Postby Caesar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:25 am

Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.


Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.

RIght, but that's your parents' choice to involve you in the decision making process, ya know? They still have the legal right to be able to determine what you do, in the end.


I am not even sure about that. They are entitled to care for me within boundaries.
And I only give them the right to make decicions (even though I do influence them) is because I am part of their household and live in their house.
And because I respect them. They are great.
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Postby Rebma » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:26 am

Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.


Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.

RIght, but that's your parents' choice to involve you in the decision making process, ya know? They still have the legal right to be able to determine what you do, in the end.


I am not even sure about that. They are entitled to care for me within boundaries.
And I only give them the right to make decicions (even though I do influence them) is because I am part of their household and live in their house.
And because I respect them. They are great.
If it came down to it, legally, they get last word. That's all I'm saying.
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Postby Caesar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:31 am

Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.


Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.

RIght, but that's your parents' choice to involve you in the decision making process, ya know? They still have the legal right to be able to determine what you do, in the end.


I am not even sure about that. They are entitled to care for me within boundaries.
And I only give them the right to make decicions (even though I do influence them) is because I am part of their household and live in their house.
And because I respect them. They are great.
If it came down to it, legally, they get last word. That's all I'm saying.


But then again I am actually too young to be put to court. Which effectively makes me able to 'illegaly' refuse what they would be saying to me.
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Postby Ryaga » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:31 am

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Postby Ryaga » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:35 am

Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:
Caesar wrote:
Rebma19 wrote:The parents get to decide things like what the kid wears, where they go to school, what kinda toys they get, what programs they attend, where they sleep, what kind of food they are going to eat amd from what grocery store and pretty much everything else in the kid's life, photos included. It's called legal guardianship.

If you say parents can't decide whether or not to post a child for whom they are legally (and debatably morally) responsible for, then cut out all the rest too. The child won't survive. Besides the point that that's irresponsible. So long as the child is a minor, guess what, parents' choice.

Deal with it, not your kid, move on.

That's all folks, nothing to see here.
Then they can remove everything you have that's not a necessity. Which leaves you with dog food, water, and crapping in the back yard. ;) That's not even t

Kids do have rights though. If I do not agree with my parents I discuss it. I will even openly say what bothers me about them. But I stay nice, just like with any other person.
I actually had a fierce discussion with some guy thinking kids should not say what they think. It ended up him walking away without any relevant arguments.

RIght, but that's your parents' choice to involve you in the decision making process, ya know? They still have the legal right to be able to determine what you do, in the end.


I am not even sure about that. They are entitled to care for me within boundaries.
And I only give them the right to make decicions (even though I do influence them) is because I am part of their household and live in their house.
And because I respect them. They are great.
If it came down to it, legally, they get last word. That's all I'm saying.


But then again I am actually too young to be put to court. Which effectively makes me able to 'illegaly' refuse what they would be saying to me.
They can remove everything that you don't need to live. IE. Canned food, water, a pile of hay, and a bucket :P
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Postby notsure » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:40 am

I can't remember who it was who posted "It's just like showing a friend a picture of your child." Well, it's not. Your friend is someone you trust and doesn't take possession of the picture. On the net, those people aren't necessarily your friends and now they have a picture of your child. And it never goes away.

notsure :?
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Postby Ryaga » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:44 am

notsure wrote:I can't remember who it was who posted "It's just like showing a friend a picture of your child." Well, it's not. Your friend is someone you trust and doesn't take possession of the picture. On the net, those people aren't necessarily your friends and now they have a picture of your child. And it never goes away.

notsure :?
And what are they going to do with the said picture that offends anyone much?
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Postby joo » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:45 am

Oh no! An indeterminate number of strangers looked a picture of your child, and now know what they look like! That's completely different from someone seeing them in public while walking down a street, and more dangerous for some reason because there's no chance of physical contact involved! :roll:

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