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Wikipedia entry
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:19 pm
by PRUT
Hello
I know that everyone of us speaks some foreign languages and no-one of us speak them all. I would like you do ask you a favor.
Here it is wikipedia's entry of Cantr (in english)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantr_II
And I would like to have similar in every language we can.
How to proceed? Very simply. Just please translate the page abobe to any other language that you can speak and create new entry for that language. To create new entry is rather easy type link:
http://
xx.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cantr_II&action=edit
when xx is a country code (like en, pl, es, de etc.)
Then if entry is created just also add link to it in MMORPG entries like that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mmorpg
and this is all
thanks a lot
P.S.
You can control how many entries in other languages are, looking on the left menu of the wiki. For Cantr II, now entries exist just in English, Polish and Estonian
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:41 pm
by Avathar
There is now also a Dutch Entry. Just created it.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:45 pm
by PRUT
Thank You very much! It is perfect
Waiting for others...

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:11 pm
by SekoETC
I added the Finnish version.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:45 am
by Junesun
Creating translations for languages for which Cantr doesn't yet exist is also a good way to get more players speaking that language. If you can then send them to the forum post where requests for new languages are made, chances are that there will soon be enough people who want to play in that language.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:23 pm
by PRUT
Thank you Seko
2 people registered already in Cantr since yesterday poiting as a source wikipedia.fi
Junesun, when we would see German version?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:25 am
by mtm21
There is a cantr 2 but where is Cantr 1 lol
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:23 am
by Junesun
PRUT wrote:Thank you Seko

2 people registered already in Cantr since yesterday poiting as a source wikipedia.fi
Junesun, when we would see German version?

I'll see what I can do. Right now I'm extremely busy: it's the last week of university classes, Friday-Sunday I'm in Southern Germany visiting my boyfriend, Wednesday my boyfriend is visiting me, Thursday we're going to the USA together for 2 1/2 weeks. A lot of stuff to prepare and to complete before that...
EDIT: ok, I did a quick translation and added a few things I thought were interesting to mention.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:22 am
by SekoETC

I didn't think anyone would actually notice...
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:01 pm
by UloDeTero
I can work on the text of the Esperanto version, but it'll take some time and will need double-checking, and I don't know what to do about the links (words like 'MMORPG' don't exist in the Esperanto Wiki).
But I'll do what I can.
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Edit:
Okay, the Esperanto version is up!

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:39 am
by PRUT
Thank you

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:33 pm
by wichita
PRUT wrote:Thank you Seko

2 people registered already in Cantr since yesterday poiting as a source wikipedia.fi
Kiitos! Kiitos paljon Seko!

Haluan pelaa suomessa nyt! And yes, I am sure that I messed up the form like I always do! :p
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:00 am
by PRUT
Junesun wrote:EDIT: ok, I did a quick translation and added a few things I thought were interesting to mention.
What da ..!!
They deleted it! Wha the kind of people are responsible for german version of Wiki?!! It really sucks!
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:10 pm
by Sho
Not much you can do. The deletion followed protocol. Wikipedia is pretty strict about neutral points of view and advertising, and frankly the Cantr articles are mostly advertising.
If you want an article to survive, you have to make clear the subject matter is notable, write it in a neutral way, make clear that it's being added by the Wikipedia community and not outside interest groups, and defend the article if it gets put up for deletion. That didn't happen.
This article was put up for deletion because browser-based MMORPGs are not notable - there are hundreds or thousands of them - and because the article was clearly of a promotional nature. Putting the article in a more documentary slant would have helped.
I don't know whether the people who wrote the article had any Wikipedia editing history. But an article written or maintained by a registered user with a significant number of edits on other articles, spread over a period of time, will be treated much more seriously. An article written by an unregistered IP and never added to by anyone else will usually be deleted unless the subject matter is obviously notable.
There was no real defense put up for this article. Only three people commented on the deletion request. One, PRUT, was an unregistered user - automatically suspect - who didn't really say anything. One argued for deletion, and one argued that the article should be shortened. That is usually judged as a rough consensus for deletion, and it was. If more people - registered users with Wikipedia editing histories would have been best - had argued effectively, it would have been something. And I don't know if any effort was made to edit the article to meet the criticism, but that's important also.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:31 pm
by PRUT
How Do you know all of that Sho? Can you speak German?
It would be great if I'm able to know german to edit or at least vote against deletion, using some arguments.
It is pretty sad, that nobody supported me
But ok, we will have less German speaking players in game.