Cantr II Discussion Forum

The Esperanto area of Cantr definitely needs more resources, especially with the new food changes. Very few locations have any sort of edible foods, and preparing food is very hard, considering that as far as I can tell only one location on the island has wood. Already one character of mine has died of starvation just wandering around looking for a place with food, and development in the island will be hindered until more sustainable communities can be formed.

Um, sorry to stomp on your complaint, but firstly this should be in suggestions forums.
And besides, it's actually good that there is no food resources. It makes it more difficult for expert players to live there, which is a rush for some people. If you don't like it, you're obviously a sook and not a good enough Cantr player. Just let your character die, and spawn in a new place.

Besides, your character shouldn't know what resources are 'abundant' and what arent. So you really can't say much or complain. That's the Cantr life when in a new area. And you always spawn with at least two people in a town, ask them for food. SIGH! There is always an answer, you jsut need to use your brain.

Thetaris wrote:And besides, it's actually good that there is no food resources. It makes it more difficult for expert players to live there, which is a rush for some people.

So we should limit Esperanto play to expert players who want to be "challenged" by starvation?

Thetaris wrote:And you always spawn with at least two people in a town, ask them for food.

Thetaris wrote:Just let your character die, and spawn in a new place.

From what I hear, the Esperanto area is mostly empty, many of the other characters are inactive, and those who are active are all having food problems.

Thetaris wrote:If you don't like it, you're obviously a sook and not a good enough Cantr player.

Thetaris wrote:SIGH! There is always an answer, you jsut need to use your brain.

I don't like to go ad hominem, but that's rich coming from someone who posted an incomprehensible mini-rant on the forums because he ran out of minutes.

It wasn't a mini-rant at all. I was asking why it happens. Unless you want me to ruin the flow of the game and ask IC using 'OOC: Why was I out of time before,' then don't call it that.

The Esperanto island is quite large... it would be fair to call it a continent...or at least a sub-continent. Most of it does not have food, but there is more than one location to collect wood, and there is more than one location to find raw food for collection. The trouble is if you spawn deep within the non-food area.

I don't know if Esperanto-land is still going by spawn points instead of population-linked spawning, but one of the original spawn points is very very far away from sustaining food...making it very hard to survive.

The problem is also that there aren't the resources necessary to make iron. Without iron for at least a trowel, you can't make an oven to process food.

I don't think there are big food problems, really. Both original spawning points have edibles, the difference being that one of them is an island of potatoes in a sea of nothing to eat

Anyway, many locations are habitable, and the rest should probably just stay unhabited for now, I like the island the way it is. Wild. Mind you, it's not hard to survive, if you stick to the community. Just that a lonesome newspawn will probably never make it.

As for making iron, yes it's hard for the poor guys without all necessary resources, but for me it would sound kind of silly now to add it to the island as a divine intervention. Not now, when the island reached seafaring age, and they could find the resource on another island. I'm anticipating the day when the first explorers find the holy grail and retun home and produce the first batch of processed iron.

I wanted to ask this too: are there spawnpoints still, or is it people-centric?

@Thetaris: how old are you, might I ask?

On a scale of one to ten, about how hard is it to learn Esperanto? Is it anything like Spanish?

Lumin wrote:On a scale of one to ten, about how hard is it to learn Esperanto? Is it anything like Spanish?

I'd give it a 2 - it's still involves studying, but it's about as easy as a language can get.

The vocabulary and sound is like Spanish, imho. The grammar is much easier however. For example, you only need 3 endings for the basic tenses:
-is for past tense
-as for present tense
-os for future tense

All verbs (without exception!) use these endings, they are used for every person (I, you, he/she/it, we, you, they) and you need not learn different types of tenses like past tense vs. perfect vs. remote past or simple present vs. continuous present.

If an Esperanto text does not appear obvious to you right now, it's probably because you're unfamiliar with basic endings like these. Also, there are suffixes that make Esperanto more difficult to understand for those who haven't studied the language but that make Esperanto much easier to learn for those who do. For example, imagine you want to say "glasses". In most languages, this involves learning a new word that has little or no relation to the words you learned before. In Esperanto however, you can get by with just knowing the basic verb "vidi"(to see) and the all-round suffix "-il-", which denotes a tool. You can call glasses "vidilo"(tool used to see).

If you'd like to learn Esperanto, you can consult http://www.esperanto.net in order to find local Esperanto communities and courses. Or you can take advantage of free courses offered online, such as the great software offered at http://www.cursodeesperanto.com.br or the FEC correspondence course offered at http://pacujo.net/esperanto/course/. I learned Esperanto using the German version of the FEC, which gave me not only an excellent basis of practical Esperanto but also contact to other Esperanto speakers and the possibility to spend a weekend in Berlin with my tutor, who invited me for an intermediate course. I can see the advantages of the software course, too, though: you get to hear and speak Esperanto and the interactive games are a fun, too. The disadvantage of the software course is that you get few texts to work with and generally not as much vocabulary as in the FEC.