Cantr II Discussion Forum

Yipes! There be a killer in the Karnon Forest! Luckily, I have a shield and was able to escape damage.

On a second scan of the page, it seems I wasn't hit! She must have realized that I had a shield or something..

Abstain.

1% of a population is normally bent towards carnage. That would be at least 24 characters right now. The odds that you will see one of these 24 characters being activtly mruderous with your 15 views into the game is fairly high.

Welcome. It is not welcome unless it's me doing it.

People who just attack masses of people are boring. There's no targetted attacks, no planning, no espionage, nothing. Just, bambambambam everyone's pissed, char gets executed by survivors (hopefully) or the entire place gets cleaned out. I've seen too much of that, and quite frankly, it bores me.

Agreed, turn based fighting, like a duel type thing would help change that as it would require more thought than the hit and run tactics currently, as you wouldn't be able to hit and run, and would stop 1 person clearing out a town in a couple days.

Karnon needed volence to make it exciting since the government was a complete joke.

Violence in RL is instant and final and should remain so in Cantr. Although I will restate that I would like to see some sort of random system in place. I would also have to agree with David that about 1% of the chars are activily planning murder or other divious schemes, but with probly another 3% that are prepared to dish something out at any given time depending on the circumstances, so of course you are going to witness wholesale slaugthers here and there...but don't belittle the amount of thought that goes into them

violence is instant and final, but tends to consist of exchanges in a frenzied manner, and the best we can do in Cantr is do it turn based, but it would mean that there would be a uniformity across Cantr that most things are turn based and progress on the hour, whereas in RL there would be constant progress

It's good that uit is turn based otherwise people who are active a lot longer than others can wipe out other non-active people in a short amount of time. It wouldn't affrect my characters since I'm online quite a lot.

I suppose in the same vein it would give less active players a fighting chance, as their characters fight back automatically (or not if they choose, an option should be included to not retaliate)

I voted 'no' in the sense that I was not at all surprised that the person who started being violent did so. One slightly off-kilter person...

What did surprise me is that she came back when asked.

Here, she left a transcript of her final actions in Karnon Forest:

You say: "As promised, I will be off to Karnon now. I have left my legacy in the form
of uncompleted buildings, so I shall not be forgotten. My war bow has taught me that
serial killing is fun, and my iron shield has made it a possibility. When you have a
war bow and iron shield, won`t you please join me in terrorizing the new continent? I
promise you, it will be fun!"

642-5: You enter Citizens Quarters, where you see 1 people, leaving the central area
of Karnon Forest.

642-5: You use 1000 grams of stone on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer Legacy -
Remember me-.

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -"Actions tempered with insanity..."-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer home-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -SHIT SHIT! I NEED AN ENEMA!-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -A hearty FOK J00 from Norbert
Billington ^_^- (cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -"Actions tempered with insanity..."-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -SHIT SHIT! I NEED AN ENEMA!- (cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -A hearty FOK J00 from Norbert Billington
^_^- (cottage).

642-5: You see June entering Karnon Forest, coming from Citizens Quarters.

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer home- (cottage).

642-5: You see June leaving the central area of Karnon Forest, entering Citizens
Quarters.

642-5: a man in his twenties hurts you using a bare fist. You lose 0 percent
strength. You saved 35 percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "BWAHAHAHAHAH!"

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Inteligent guy that says darg using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Jenni using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt Tavish Vladamore using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: June hurts you using a war bow. You lose 0 percent strength. You saved 35
percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "Hehee!"

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You say: "^_^"

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You hurt Counter using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: You take 44 grams of stone.

642-5: You take 4352 grams of wood.

642-5: You say: "Whoops."

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Wiglypuf using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 10 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Alex using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt June using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 10 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Substantia (zach kanata using a war bow, who loses 12 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 12 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 13 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Aeris using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: Aeris hurts you using a war bow. You lose 0 percent strength. You saved 35
percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt HvyThg using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You say: "*throws its string back, swirling its decorations around, and draws
an arrow and slowly aims* DIE huns DIE!!!! ""

642-5: You say: "My war bow says: "The strong shall live, the weak shall die. That is
the way I have been constructed. Although you are arrogant and offensive, you still
are a weakling. Which means.."

642-5: You say: ""Actions tempered with insanity..." Hiding inside the crazed
confusion of all sociopathic activity exists a methodical mind which sometimes
exhibits ruthlessly de-humanising tendencies in approach, implementation, and
motivation."

642-5: You say: "Cool! I can hit again!!"

642-5: You hurt Rick O'Shea using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt Tinuviel using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You say: "I will go to Karnon later. For now, I will stay in the Forest."

642-5: a man in his twenties says: "Aeris, what the hell are you getting out of this?
Put the notes down, and if you want to be a constant pain, go to Karnon."

642-5: a man in his twenties hurts you using a hunting bow. You lose 0 percent
strength. You saved 35 percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "I know, right?"

642-5: a man in his twenties says: "Thats pretty anoying!"

She didn't come back because she was asked, she stepped on to the road to get someone she missed. She has an iron shield so there was no reason to run or fear retribution. Not yet anyway.....

It wouldn't solve this issue but remember if you want to speed up violence then:

If you hit a person you can not hit them for a day UNLESS (the new part) they hit you back then you can hit them again instantly. If you do they can hit you again instanly and so on.

Characters not active during the time of the battle are protected same as today. Being not logged in, they do not strike back and can only get hit once.

And to the people who said in this forum that iron shouldn't be controlled....this would be what uncontrolled looks like.

The reason why I come down on player "resources should remain free to all" is that it is just not the history of most cultures. Most groups try to control much more than they will ever need. So even with infinite amount of a resourse, someone will declare it is all thiers. Whether they can enforce it or not is a different issue. Characters on the other hand should have no preset opnion on this either way. Each character has it's own opnions seperate from it's player.

Order is simple. Freedom is much more difficult. Although it seems to be the other way around, it is not. I still prefer freedom IRL but that is how we were raised weren't we?

I would like to see a "auto chracter drag" feature or a "drag from trail" feature. So that people jumping on and off trails are less safe from an angry mob.

honvl wrote:Here, she left a transcript of her final actions in Karnon Forest:

You say: "As promised, I will be off to Karnon now. I have left my legacy in the form
of uncompleted buildings, so I shall not be forgotten. My war bow has taught me that
serial killing is fun, and my iron shield has made it a possibility. When you have a
war bow and iron shield, won`t you please join me in terrorizing the new continent? I
promise you, it will be fun!"

642-5: You enter Citizens Quarters, where you see 1 people, leaving the central area
of Karnon Forest.

642-5: You use 1000 grams of stone on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer Legacy -
Remember me-.

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -"Actions tempered with insanity..."-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer home-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -SHIT SHIT! I NEED AN ENEMA!-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 600 grams of wood on Building -A hearty FOK J00 from Norbert
Billington ^_^- (cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -"Actions tempered with insanity..."-
(cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -SHIT SHIT! I NEED AN ENEMA!- (cottage).

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -A hearty FOK J00 from Norbert Billington
^_^- (cottage).

642-5: You see June entering Karnon Forest, coming from Citizens Quarters.

642-5: You use 1 grams of wood on Building -Aeris`s Serial Killer home- (cottage).

642-5: You see June leaving the central area of Karnon Forest, entering Citizens
Quarters.

642-5: a man in his twenties hurts you using a bare fist. You lose 0 percent
strength. You saved 35 percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "BWAHAHAHAHAH!"

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Inteligent guy that says darg using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Jenni using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt Tavish Vladamore using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: June hurts you using a war bow. You lose 0 percent strength. You saved 35
percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "Hehee!"

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You say: "^_^"

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You hurt Counter using a war bow, who loses 30 percent strength.

642-5: You take 44 grams of stone.

642-5: You take 4352 grams of wood.

642-5: You say: "Whoops."

642-5: You kill a man in his twenties using a war bow.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Wiglypuf using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a woman in her twenties using a war bow, who loses 10 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Alex using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt June using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 10 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Substantia (zach kanata using a war bow, who loses 12 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 12 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 30 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 13 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt Aeris using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: Aeris hurts you using a war bow. You lose 0 percent strength. You saved 35
percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt a man in his twenties using a war bow, who loses 0 percent
strength.

642-5: You hurt HvyThg using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You say: "*throws its string back, swirling its decorations around, and draws
an arrow and slowly aims* DIE huns DIE!!!! ""

642-5: You say: "My war bow says: "The strong shall live, the weak shall die. That is
the way I have been constructed. Although you are arrogant and offensive, you still
are a weakling. Which means.."

642-5: You say: ""Actions tempered with insanity..." Hiding inside the crazed
confusion of all sociopathic activity exists a methodical mind which sometimes
exhibits ruthlessly de-humanising tendencies in approach, implementation, and
motivation."

642-5: You say: "Cool! I can hit again!!"

642-5: You hurt Rick O'Shea using a war bow, who loses 0 percent strength.

642-5: You hurt Tinuviel using a war bow, who loses 12 percent strength.

642-5: You say: "I will go to Karnon later. For now, I will stay in the Forest."

642-5: a man in his twenties says: "Aeris, what the hell are you getting out of this?
Put the notes down, and if you want to be a constant pain, go to Karnon."

642-5: a man in his twenties hurts you using a hunting bow. You lose 0 percent
strength. You saved 35 percent using your iron shield.

642-5: You say: "I know, right?"

642-5: a man in his twenties says: "Thats pretty anoying!"

don't be postin' this IC stuff IRL, mate.