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Watercraft
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:12 pm
by star
Is there some guide to tell the difference between the various boats/ships?
I can visualize a bike, a tandem bike, a rickshaw, etc. But darters and rakers and soarers stretch my imagination.
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:24 pm
by Cookie
*whingy voice* It has to be found out in game!
If it don't have rubber it's a boat!
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:56 pm
by star
I was under the impression that all I could find out in the game is how much they are carrying and maybe how fast they go. But I'm referring more to the appearance. How many sails, the rigging. I'm guessing that the Creator had certain real boats/ships in mind when he used those terms?
Also, regarding boats versus ships. Here is what Cecil Adams (the Straight Dope guy) had to say:
"Well, we could get technical, I suppose. Among sailing vessels, the distinction between ships and boats is that a ship is a square-rigged craft with at least three masts, and a boat isn't. With regard to motorized craft, a ship is a large vessel intended for oceangoing or at least deep-water transport, and a boat is anything else.
But that's too much to remember. Try this: ships have to be big enough to carry boats, and boats have to be small enough to be carried by ships.
There are exceptions, of course..."
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:40 pm
by nitefyre
I think that works well, your definition. Of course, I believe longboats are dockable by even smaller vessels, as one of your exceptions. I think the requirements needed for a boat can give you a general clue in to what the vessel is composed of and how large it will be, comparatively. Now, how you want to roleplay sailing is up to you- as you don't actually spend cotton cloth on sails (as of yet) and so you can assume you sail without sails from that. But then again, it's not like we make oars for our ships...but I think the rp should just be kept reasonable, if you are trying to describe your boat. If it's a longboat, it's not gonna have a jet engine.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:15 am
by Doodle_Jack
Use Google to get an idea. Everything in Cantr is derived from objects, animals and whatever as can be found in the real world.
Just be carefull with what information you use in the game. For instance, it is okay to have you character knowing what a darter looks like. It is not okay to have your character knowing how to make steel. That is something your character has to find out in game.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:22 am
by TQ
Good post Jack, I was thinking about going onto google to find out what steel was made of but then I thought well my char will have to find out in-game. I still have not discovered!
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:22 am
by Nixit
On that Google thing... if, per chance, you do find out on google don't say:
"OOC: I googled the (whatever it is) and I found out that it is used for (whatever it does)"
Um... someone did that, or a couple people... speaking of which, should I report that?
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:30 am
by Nick
Even if you googled for steel, you'd still have to find out in game.
Cantr is a lot more simple than real life... in some ways.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:58 am
by nitefyre
Nixit wrote:On that Google thing... if, per chance, you do find out on google don't say:
"OOC: I googled the (whatever it is) and I found out that it is used for (whatever it does)"
Um... someone did that, or a couple people... speaking of which, should I report that?
If it is annoying you, send the character an OOC private whisper. The less public OOCing the better. If the player continues to make annoying messages in the future, email the Player's Department at
players@cantr.net
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:45 am
by Nixit
It's not exactly the OOCing part, its the fact that he tried to explain an object in Cantr out loud from a google search.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:55 am
by nitefyre
Nixit wrote:It's not exactly the OOCing part, its the fact that he tried to explain an object in Cantr out loud from a google search.
Personally, I find it questionable...but I think a general idea of what the item looks like from Google is helpful for roleplay. I don't think they need to OOC anything, though.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:59 am
by Nixit
Yes... he could've just explained what it meant IC and not mention that he googled it. It's nothing major really, just a little irritating.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:11 am
by Lord_Igor
Doodle_Jack wrote:Everything in Cantr is derived from objects, animals and whatever as can be found in the real world.
I think I read somewhere in the forum that some of the ships are taken from the Wheel of time series.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:04 am
by Doodle_Jack
Wheel of time? Never heard of, but that's probably just me....
Thanks for the compliment, TQ
Oh, and I kinda did find out how to make steel on google. You can for instance find out which resources are needed. I just didn't use that knowledge IC.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:53 pm
by Revanael
The Darter, Soarer, and Raker are all Atha'an Miere ships from the Wheel of Time world. Best ships around, in that world.
I can give you descriptions of wht the Darter, Raker, and Soarer look like, perhaps. But whether I'm allowed is another matter.