Cantr linguist fun II
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:17 pm
This is the second edition of the Cantr linguist fun. This time, it is about German. You can pick up some useful German conversation with this riddle, rather than the standard messages.
For those who didn't participate in the first riddle, a brief explanation of how this riddle works: first you get an extract of a character page listing some events in German and their English translation. Then you'll get a couple of German events that you have to translate by yourself and finally you'll have to translate some English events to German. You'll need quite a bit of logical thinking for that. Events are bottom-up, as usual. I'm quite sure all my values are completely wrong - you should learn about such stuff in-game anyways.
If you managed to translate everything and would like to br... umm inform everybody that you got it right, please send me the results, rather than posting them and spoiling somebody else's fun. I'll check them and post a high score here. If you participated in the French riddle, too, I'll also calculate your overall score.
Read this conversation (bottom-up!) and take note of vocabulary and grammar:
Jan sagt: Danke. Wer bist du? = Jan says: Thanks. Who are you?
Erik sagt: Jan, du kannst ein Schild aus Holz machen. Du brauchst nur 300g Holz. = Erik says: Jan, you can make a shield out of wood. You only need 300g of wood.
Jan gibt Anne etwas Fleisch. = Jan gives Anne some meat. - ok I know this sentence should be "You see Jan giving Anne some meat", but I'm using this form in order to make the riddle a bit easier.
Jan sagt: Hier hast du das Fleisch, Anne. Ich brauche es nicht. = Jan says: Here is the meat, Anne. I don't need it.
Anne sagt: Nein, Jan, ich brauche kein Fleisch. Ich tausche Holz gegen Eisen oder Stahl gegen Eisen. = Anne says: No, Jan, I don't need any meat. I exchange wood for iron or steel for iron.
Jan sagt: Anne, tauschst du Fleisch gegen Eisen? = Jan says: Anne, do you exchange meat for iron?
Du siehst wie Jan etwas Fleisch nimmt. = You see Jan taking some meat.
Otto sagt: Nein, Jan, ich kann dir kein Eisen geben. Ich habe nur ganz wenig Eisen. Ich brauche es selber. Es tut mir leid. = Otto says: No, Jan, I can't give you any iron. I only have a bit of iron. I need it myself. I'm sorry.
Jan sagt: Otto, gibst du mir etwas Eisen? = Jan says: Otto, do you give me some iron?
Jan sagt: Ich habe kein Holz, Anne, ich bin neu hier. 900g Holz für 100g Eisen, das ist sehr teuer. Und ich brauche 300g Eisen für ein Schild. Wer gibt mir 300g Eisen? = Jan says: I don't have any wood, Anne, I'm new here. 900g of wood for 100g of iron, that is very expensive. And I need 300g of iron for a shield. Who gives me 300g of iron?
Otto sagt: Hallo, Jan! Ich bin Otto und ich bin aus Wirwarov. = Otto says: Hello, Jan! I am Otto and I am from Wirwarov.
Anne sagt: Hallo, Jan! Ich bin Anne. Für ein Schwert brauchst du Stahl und Leder, nicht Eisen. Stahl ist sehr teuer, aber ich kann dir 100g Eisen für 900g Holz geben. Wieviel Eisen brauchst du? = Anne says: Hello, Jan! I am Anne. You need steel and leather for a sword, not iron. Steel is very expensive, but I can give you 100g of iron for 900g of wood. How much iron do you need?
Du sagst: Hallo! = You say: Hello!
Jan sagt: Hallo! Ich bin Jan und ich bin neu hier. Ich brauche etwas Eisen für ein Schild. Oder für ein Schwert. Wer kann mir etwas Eisen geben? = Jan says: Hello! I am Jan and I am new here. I need some iron for a shield. Or for a sword. Who can give me some iron?
This is said after the conversation above. Also bottom-up. Translate to English:
Jan sagt: Danke, Otto.
Otto gibt Jan etwas Holz.
Otto sagt: Ich kann dir 300g Holz geben, Jan.
Anne sagt: Ich habe nur 100g Holz und ich brauche es selber.
Erik sagt: Es tut mir leid, Jan, ich habe kein Holz.
Jan sagt: Hallo, Erik. Wer gibt mir 300g Holz?
Erik sagt: Ich bin Erik.
This is the latest installment of the conversation. Bottom-up, of course. Things in italics are NOT to be translated, they are comments for you. Translate to German:
You give 400g of iron to Anne.
You say: Thanks. Here's the iron.
Anne says: Here's the leather.
Anne gives you 50g of leather.
Anne says: Ok (same in German), 50g of leather for 400g of iron.
You say: That is very expensive! I only have 400g of iron.
Anne says: I exchange 50g of leather for 500g of iron.
You say: Anne, I need 50g of leather.
You say: Otto, I only have a bit of steel and I need it myself, for a sword. I can give you iron for leather.
Otto: I exchange leather for steel.
Anne: Hello, ...! How much leather do you need?
Jan: I don't have any leather. I can't give you any leather. I'm sorry.
You say: I need some leather for a sword. I have iron. Who can give me some leather?
You say: Hello! I am ... and I am from ... . (insert any name and any city you wish)
Notes:
- This time you won't need to "invent" new forms based on changes you see done with other words. All forms you need are actually in the text, though perhaps not in the same context.
- The last item of the "translate to German" exercise, the action of giving iron to Anne, is probably the most difficult one because there is nothing to model it on. I will therefore consider it a bonus question - if you translate it incorrectly, you won't lose any points and if you translate it correctly, you'll get a bonus point.
Have fun!
Judith
EDIT: I changed the give event in the translated section, to make it easier to find out how to translate the give events in the English to German section.
For those who didn't participate in the first riddle, a brief explanation of how this riddle works: first you get an extract of a character page listing some events in German and their English translation. Then you'll get a couple of German events that you have to translate by yourself and finally you'll have to translate some English events to German. You'll need quite a bit of logical thinking for that. Events are bottom-up, as usual. I'm quite sure all my values are completely wrong - you should learn about such stuff in-game anyways.
If you managed to translate everything and would like to br... umm inform everybody that you got it right, please send me the results, rather than posting them and spoiling somebody else's fun. I'll check them and post a high score here. If you participated in the French riddle, too, I'll also calculate your overall score.
Read this conversation (bottom-up!) and take note of vocabulary and grammar:
Jan sagt: Danke. Wer bist du? = Jan says: Thanks. Who are you?
Erik sagt: Jan, du kannst ein Schild aus Holz machen. Du brauchst nur 300g Holz. = Erik says: Jan, you can make a shield out of wood. You only need 300g of wood.
Jan gibt Anne etwas Fleisch. = Jan gives Anne some meat. - ok I know this sentence should be "You see Jan giving Anne some meat", but I'm using this form in order to make the riddle a bit easier.
Jan sagt: Hier hast du das Fleisch, Anne. Ich brauche es nicht. = Jan says: Here is the meat, Anne. I don't need it.
Anne sagt: Nein, Jan, ich brauche kein Fleisch. Ich tausche Holz gegen Eisen oder Stahl gegen Eisen. = Anne says: No, Jan, I don't need any meat. I exchange wood for iron or steel for iron.
Jan sagt: Anne, tauschst du Fleisch gegen Eisen? = Jan says: Anne, do you exchange meat for iron?
Du siehst wie Jan etwas Fleisch nimmt. = You see Jan taking some meat.
Otto sagt: Nein, Jan, ich kann dir kein Eisen geben. Ich habe nur ganz wenig Eisen. Ich brauche es selber. Es tut mir leid. = Otto says: No, Jan, I can't give you any iron. I only have a bit of iron. I need it myself. I'm sorry.
Jan sagt: Otto, gibst du mir etwas Eisen? = Jan says: Otto, do you give me some iron?
Jan sagt: Ich habe kein Holz, Anne, ich bin neu hier. 900g Holz für 100g Eisen, das ist sehr teuer. Und ich brauche 300g Eisen für ein Schild. Wer gibt mir 300g Eisen? = Jan says: I don't have any wood, Anne, I'm new here. 900g of wood for 100g of iron, that is very expensive. And I need 300g of iron for a shield. Who gives me 300g of iron?
Otto sagt: Hallo, Jan! Ich bin Otto und ich bin aus Wirwarov. = Otto says: Hello, Jan! I am Otto and I am from Wirwarov.
Anne sagt: Hallo, Jan! Ich bin Anne. Für ein Schwert brauchst du Stahl und Leder, nicht Eisen. Stahl ist sehr teuer, aber ich kann dir 100g Eisen für 900g Holz geben. Wieviel Eisen brauchst du? = Anne says: Hello, Jan! I am Anne. You need steel and leather for a sword, not iron. Steel is very expensive, but I can give you 100g of iron for 900g of wood. How much iron do you need?
Du sagst: Hallo! = You say: Hello!
Jan sagt: Hallo! Ich bin Jan und ich bin neu hier. Ich brauche etwas Eisen für ein Schild. Oder für ein Schwert. Wer kann mir etwas Eisen geben? = Jan says: Hello! I am Jan and I am new here. I need some iron for a shield. Or for a sword. Who can give me some iron?
This is said after the conversation above. Also bottom-up. Translate to English:
Jan sagt: Danke, Otto.
Otto gibt Jan etwas Holz.
Otto sagt: Ich kann dir 300g Holz geben, Jan.
Anne sagt: Ich habe nur 100g Holz und ich brauche es selber.
Erik sagt: Es tut mir leid, Jan, ich habe kein Holz.
Jan sagt: Hallo, Erik. Wer gibt mir 300g Holz?
Erik sagt: Ich bin Erik.
This is the latest installment of the conversation. Bottom-up, of course. Things in italics are NOT to be translated, they are comments for you. Translate to German:
You give 400g of iron to Anne.
You say: Thanks. Here's the iron.
Anne says: Here's the leather.
Anne gives you 50g of leather.
Anne says: Ok (same in German), 50g of leather for 400g of iron.
You say: That is very expensive! I only have 400g of iron.
Anne says: I exchange 50g of leather for 500g of iron.
You say: Anne, I need 50g of leather.
You say: Otto, I only have a bit of steel and I need it myself, for a sword. I can give you iron for leather.
Otto: I exchange leather for steel.
Anne: Hello, ...! How much leather do you need?
Jan: I don't have any leather. I can't give you any leather. I'm sorry.
You say: I need some leather for a sword. I have iron. Who can give me some leather?
You say: Hello! I am ... and I am from ... . (insert any name and any city you wish)
Notes:
- This time you won't need to "invent" new forms based on changes you see done with other words. All forms you need are actually in the text, though perhaps not in the same context.
- The last item of the "translate to German" exercise, the action of giving iron to Anne, is probably the most difficult one because there is nothing to model it on. I will therefore consider it a bonus question - if you translate it incorrectly, you won't lose any points and if you translate it correctly, you'll get a bonus point.
Have fun!
Judith
EDIT: I changed the give event in the translated section, to make it easier to find out how to translate the give events in the English to German section.
