Cantr ethics and thinking and OOC interference

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Cantr ethics and thinking and OOC interference

Postby SekoETC » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:26 pm

This thing I have been wondering a long time... Are there in-game ethics at all? Is anyone on the level they could be free of OOC interference and let their characters think Cantr way?

Examples:

    Well-fed means powerful I think that means Cantrians should respect fat ones more than skinny ones. Though it isn't possible to eat too much, only just enough, so maybe there should be "normal weighted" instead of fat. In earlier times of the real world food was not a matter of course, so overweight was an emblem of wealth. That's why kings are portrayed fat and kids in paintings are also plump unless they represent proletariat children or beggars. Glorification of slenderness is a matter of late 20th century. And I have never seen a Cantrian doing sit-ups. So if you presume your lover has a flat stomach, are you letting OOC thinking control your character?

    No children In theory this should mean Cantrians cannot recognize or be attracted by childish features, such as large eyes and small other parts of the face. There are no great variations of size since people rarely grow after 20 years of age, at least not notably.

    No procreation Cantrians cannot be tempted by signs of possible high fertility such as big tits and wide hips. It isn't certain if women even have breasts. (Actually the forming of breast is unnecessary for nursing, but it's a symbol nevertheless.) At least nipples are useless. This leads to the question how exactly do Cantr sexes differ from each other? We presume they have genitalia yet they cannot use it for procreation, only for invisible stuff no one ever sees, they only hear a couple whispering. Is rape possible in Cantr? I have read a note charging someone of doing so but how can it even work?

    999-9. You hurt a woman in her twenties using a bare fist, which loses 3 strenght.
    999-9. You say: "*holds her down and penetrates her with force**evil cackling with laughter*"
    999-9. You take Forest path to Novgorod, leaving Vladivostok.


    Now technically you could do that several times to all the women in the location (maybe men too) and unless somebody is online, they couldn't do anything. Only to ignore your doings when they wake up. But where's the limit, can you ignore all rp you do not like? And what if the player of the victim were a minor, and you had used obscene language in describing the action?

    No parenthood Cantrians might not have a built-in sense of taking care of the weak, since they were fully operational from the spawning and have never been dependant on a caretaker (if not counting the loss of food in the first day(s), which is not lethal).

    The older the better This is the only thing I can think of which is pretty much in control. Since aging in Cantr doesn't make people weaker, it only means that the person has had more time to gather equipment, resources and knowledge, thus becoming powerful. Thus it is natural to respect a man in his fifties more than a newspawn.

    Slavery = bad? Cantr has a very mixed up level of technology so it cannot represent any certain state of Earth history, but still most of the time on earth slavery has been considered essential and a natural state of things. Only a couple of centuries it has been banned. What makes you think Cantrians are on that level of ethics? I remember once Gahak started talking about getting slaves, it was only a daydream but people were all shocked and told him to forget it at once.


That's all I can think of at the moment, you can discuss these if you like or list new ones if you can come up with any.
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Postby rklenseth » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:33 pm

I think a lot of people add in what they think rather than what their characters think which is tough to not do. You might think that slavery is bad but does your character? Probably not because as far as I know slavery is rare in Cantr (it does exist though) so if your character hasn't seen or heard of slavery then they really can't have an opinion of what slavery is on either a good or bad level. In fact, slavery shouldn't really have a definition of slavery in many cases because it really hasn't been invented in many societies as of yet.

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