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Dragging from animals (for discussion from support)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:38 am
by iavatus
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Some important points were asked, made this for discussion of them.

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SekoETC wrote:The maximum dragging value a person can have is 149. The minimum a completely healthy and not tired person can have (assuming they're the weakest and clumsiest person in the world) is 14. If someone is 100 % tired, their contribution is 0 no matter how strong or weak they are.

Other values, assuming 0 tiredness and woundedness, and being average in their ranking inside the skill/strength category:

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        Awkward   Novice   Efficient   Skillful  Expert
MWTA:   28        44        60          77        93
WTA:    39        55        71          87       104
AVG:    50        66        82          98       114
STA:    60        77        93         109       125
MSTA:   71        87       104         120       136


You can see that skill weighs slightly more than strength. So for example someone who is expert but weaker than average corresponds to someone who's efficient and much stronger than average, and someone who's expert but weaker than average corresponds to someone who's efficient and much stronger than average.

The minimum needed to drag a person is 60, even if they were weak, tired and/or wounded, so there's some built in protection. Beyond that, a person's resistance is always double their offensive dragging value, so that's why you always get 50 percent when dragging yourself.

Strength needed to drag a victim who's:

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        Awkward   Novice   Efficient   Skillful  Expert
MWTA:    60        88      120         154       186
WTA:     78       110      142         174       208
AVG:    100       132      164         196       228
STA:    120       154      186         218       250
MSTA:   142       174      208         240       272


The exception is going to be that if someone is on a steed that's loyal to you, only 25% of the usual dragging value will be needed to drag them off, assuming one of the draggers is the steed's owner.


So, a much weaker then average, awkward rider, can be pulled off his horse by someone with 240 drag strength. A fully untired person, *should* not be moved. It also works the other way. The rider can push people off their mount much easier. Not sure if easier to drag on.

Re: Dragging from animals (for discussion from support)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:51 pm
by SekoETC
A single person cannot have 240 dragging strength, since the maximum is 149. It would require at least two people.

Re: Dragging from animals (for discussion from support)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:04 pm
by *Wiro
There is a x4 bonus to dragging your steed, x4 bonus to dragging someone off your steed, and a x4 penalty to whoever tries to drag you off their steed.

Re: Dragging from animals (for discussion from support)

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:26 pm
by Marian
Beyond that, a person's resistance is always double their offensive dragging value,


Having a little trouble following that chart on my phone, but I'm guessing this is the key factor here.