OOC shenanigans

[iavatus]

Cause the CRB forum isn't for discussions. So figured that here, we could go through some of those things.

Okay, lately there's been a lot of 'singing', on the radio. Copy and paste, and you too can be a shining star! And yet, I can't remember seeing a single other person reacting to them, in any but a perfunctory manner, because of how OOC it is. Just mildly infuriating, to watch this idiot warble out something, without the mildest effort to Cantr-ize it, or make it readable.

So, sounds like there needs to be a firmer policy on OOC songs and texts, even if it's only community enforced. At the very least, it's plagiarism, and that brings in bad possibilities, with cease and desist if it ever comes to the attention of whoever cares enough. On the other side, there's already ingame texts that the exact same thing, that could be grand....mothered in (I'm looking at you, Donii. And that bloody awful song).

The binary bit, was a bit on the nose too. One sentence would've justified it. As it stands, just a lazy up yours to everyone on the radio.
*a voice comes on, stating numbers slowly and carefully* 1001 whatever.

[Marian]

Cause the CRB forum isn't for discussions.
And yet, I can't remember seeing a single other person reacting to them, in any but a perfunctory manner.

I think everyone is just pretending they don't see it when these things happen. The copy and pasted songs might as well be proceeded with an OOC...just not replying at all is the best way to keep it from getting out of hand.

(I'm looking at you, Donii. And that bloody awful song).

Grrr. Hate the Donii notes. Any character I've ever had that might be interested in that religion, I've just gone NOPE and not allowed it, because I refuse to condone plagiarism and who can take a religion founded on a ripped off passage from a book about caveman sex seriously anyway?

And all the notes just have to be uncopyable, too. IMO all of them should be purged from the game.

And since you brought up the potential for actual legal issues with the copyright, I'd suspect any IG notes were safe, though that is another thing I was thinking about recently that makes me question the wisdom of having that video on the front page...

[Axiom]

Yeah, just copying and pasting popular songs or whatever is really tacky. I'm really not sure what the point is. I mean, at least pick something old and adapt it for Cantr. I've been looking up real sea shanties and using them as a rough template for mine, for example, and I've found it works quite well.

[Wolfsong]

A gentle reminder to everyone - what you read on the forum isn't IC. You shouldn't suddenly show up in a town, point at a person, and start using phrases taken straight from the forum... Especially when those phrases in and of themselves are very OOC and don't gel with the in game world. If someone on the forum talks about dying to somebody, you shouldn't rock up and start suddenly accusing that person of killing them after reading about it on the forum.

Likewise, you shouldn't start talking IC of people plagiarizing stuff, especially when Cantrians don't understand that the original source came from somewhere else outside of their world entirely.

[Xander]

Yeah, I've reported someone in the last hour for using something from the forum IG, and it was quite blatant as well.

[Marian]

A gentle reminder to everyone - what you read on the forum isn't IC. You shouldn't suddenly show up in a town, point at a person, and start using phrases taken straight from the forum... Especially when those phrases in and of themselves are very OOC and don't gel with the in game world. If someone on the forum talks about dying to somebody, you shouldn't rock up and start suddenly accusing that person of killing them after reading about it on the forum.

Likewise, you shouldn't start talking IC of people plagiarizing stuff, especially when Cantrians don't understand that the original source came from somewhere else outside of their world entirely.

Haven't seen examples of people doing any of these things, but it's all pretty obviously against the rules.

Though as far as 'phrases that don't gel with the world', that's a pretty slippery slope. You'd have to cut out something like half the English language once you really started enforcing it.

Like, there's a town called Dragonloft that keeps advertising on the radio. Wtf is a dragon? They don't exist in Cantr, should I report them?

People RPing doctors and such or injuries in realistic RL ways are behaving pretty OOCly too.

[Kyriel]

Like, there's a town called Dragonloft that keeps advertising on the radio. Wtf is a dragon? They don't exist in Cantr, should I report them?

They don't exist in the real world either.

[Marian]

Like, there's a town called Dragonloft that keeps advertising on the radio. Wtf is a dragon? They don't exist in Cantr, should I report them?

They don't exist in the real world either.

Hush you.

But anyway, as to the Donii thing, again I don't understand why the notes aren't just purged from the game. It cheapens the RP of any character involved with it and just flat out doesn't belong in the game, they might as well have a religion that uses these songs the other guy keeps broadcasting as their holy texts. Taking things from a copyrighted OOC source and using them IG is far, far worse than working some idea from the forum into your RP, IMO, if that's something someone is claiming happened.

[Wolfsong]

A gentle reminder to everyone - what you read on the forum isn't IC. You shouldn't suddenly show up in a town, point at a person, and start using phrases taken straight from the forum... Especially when those phrases in and of themselves are very OOC and don't gel with the in game world. If someone on the forum talks about dying to somebody, you shouldn't rock up and start suddenly accusing that person of killing them after reading about it on the forum.

Likewise, you shouldn't start talking IC of people plagiarizing stuff, especially when Cantrians don't understand that the original source came from somewhere else outside of their world entirely.

Haven't seen examples of people doing any of these things, but it's all pretty obviously against the rules.

Though as far as 'phrases that don't gel with the world', that's a pretty slippery slope. You'd have to cut out something like half the English language once you really started enforcing it.

Like, there's a town called Dragonloft that keeps advertising on the radio. Wtf is a dragon? They don't exist in Cantr, should I report them?

People RPing doctors and such or injuries in realistic RL ways are behaving pretty OOCly too.

Bacardi rum, Jamaica. Things that can't be explained away IC. Dragons can - dragons, IMO, are old people who sit on vast hoards and kill anyone who they feel threatened by.

[Kyriel]

Anyway, it's very easy to come up with a mythology that contains common, public-domain fantastic creatures. I don't really see a problem with that part. Taking modern, copyrighted things, on the other hand, less so.

[Marian]

Bacardi rum, Jamaica. Things that can't be explained away IC.

Well yeah but everyone's been complaining about that and it's been reported. There was no RP involved though, just OOC copy and past. I'm assuming it won't be happening again.

But of course now the words Bacardi rum and Jamaica are now phrases every character in front of a radio has heard, even if they don't know what it means. Kind of a messy situation, which was why I just sort of pretended none of my chars were paying enough attention to really hear that broadcast.

And those two 'hello worlds' we got one after another are far more problematic IMO, that's something that could effect IC events unlike some bored, possibly drunk person pasting in a song.

Unless, like I said, somebody starts making a bunch of uneditable notes quoting it and then spreads them around everywhere and starts a religion based around worshiping Bacardi, the god of Jamaica. Though there's clearly precedent for that to be allowed in game.

[iavatus]

Xander, If this is what I'm thinking of, there's a book. It has words, and I draw conclusions from the book. While you may disagree with the conclusions, seeing as you're using the book yourself, and are familiar with it, and can see where that conclusion is coming from, you might want to check the ground you are standing on, before striking another.

[Marian]

I think reporting someone to the PD over some IG thing your character is mad about is maybe the kind of OOC shenanigan that should be avoided too, if that's what's happening here.

[Kyriel]

Unless, like I said, somebody starts making a bunch of uneditable notes quoting it and then spreads them around everywhere and starts a religion based around worshiping Bacardi, the god of Jamaica. Though there's clearly precedent for that to be allowed in game.

I've been considering taking over a town and renaming it "Texas". I mean, there's an Amsterdam and such somewhere, right?

[Marian]

I've been considering taking over a town and renaming it "Texas". I mean, there's an Amsterdam and such somewhere, right?

There are cowboy hats and horses and lassos and ponchos and boots already. Clearly Texas is a concept that already exists IG.