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I want to create a sort of help topic for librarians that are trying to wrestle their way through a large amount of notes. All my advice is based on Firefox but should be adaptable for Chrome, Opera or Safari. I suggest downloading a real browser if you use internet explorer. This will be edited as I find new add-ons or tricks.

Basic tips:
1. Clicking "show notes" will clean your inventory of clutter, and allow access to the "operations on multiple notes" menu that allows you to store multiple notes in an envelope at once.
2. Ctrl+F allows you to search and highlight specific words ("map", or "laws" or "poem").
3. F3 allows you to go to the next item search (useful if you're trying to extract all "map" items from an envelope, for example).
4. The "end" key immediately goes to the bottom of the page, in case you need to exit the mile-long envelope you're in or want to go to the bottom of the envelope where the inner envelopes are listed. The "home" key brings you to the top.
5. Keep personal notes in clearly labelled envelope ("[John Smith's personal notes]"), so they won't get swept up into the wrong envelope, nor can they distract you.

Firefox add-on.
1. TabSubmit. This allows you to CTRL+click the "view" note button, opening the note on a separate tab. This isn't possible without the add-on, because the "view" button is not an ordinary link. No more going back and forth just to read notes.
2. Multiple Checkbox Checker. Allows you to select multiple checkboxes in one smooth gesture on the "operations on multiple notes" menu. Extremely useful when trying to select anywhere between 10 or 500 notes.

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26.6.15; A first draft.

I would sacrifice any number of hapless newspawns upon an altar in exchange for a way to flip a copy and pasted log. I can't stand 'bottom up' but rearranging every line is so tedious. It's what does me in every time I get a character with a notion to organize notes.

I use this:

http://www.miniwebtool.com/reverse-lines/

Hope this helps!

HOLY CRAAAAAP

Thank you!

Now if only I'd had this two hours ago....

Kyriel wrote:I use this:

http://www.miniwebtool.com/reverse-lines/

Hope this helps!

...now is it just me or is this thing suddenly working differently? Before it was reordering the paragraphs, now it's going line by line and therefore useless.

And here I was just so HAPPY about it for an entire day.

You should realise that something so simple is done by dozens of sites.

http://alphabetizer.flap.tv/index.php

Marian wrote:...now is it just me or is this thing suddenly working differently? Before it was reordering the paragraphs, now it's going line by line and therefore useless.

I'm guessing that's just that the coding of the game puts extra line breaks into notes that it doesn't put into the event log.

Kyriel wrote:

Marian wrote:...now is it just me or is this thing suddenly working differently? Before it was reordering the paragraphs, now it's going line by line and therefore useless.

I'm guessing that's just that the coding of the game puts extra line breaks into notes that it doesn't put into the event log.

Specifically when reading the note. Never copy from the note in "reading mode", but always copy from the editing menu.

Apparently I can't edit the first post...that's...annoying. Guess it's that time thing.

There is also http://textmechanic.co/Sort-Text-Lines.html but I don't know if switching websites is going to solve the problem or not, depending on the root cause.

If you happen to be pasting things into Notepad, it might help to turn of word wrapping, as that turns single lines into paragraphs. It seems to me copying from Cantr's event screen always gives lines but various programs turns them into paragraphs. (That is, what looks like a paragraph on the event screen is actually a single line, and Note pad breaks it up into many lines, and then those many lines get sorted instead of the single long line from Cantr.) Cantr's notes do this too, when copying from viewing a note, so when possible it may be better to copy from the edit screen if text from notes gives the issue.

(Edit: *Wiro said that about the notes before I did, but I'd failed to notice there was another page of posts before I started replying.)

Ah, okay, I was pasting from a viewed note, that must have been what screwed it up.

But I swear I've looked for this exact thing multiple times in the past and never found one, I must just have been using the wrong search terms.

Poor librarian's. I salute you all, those who wade through the dreck and bring it to some semblance. It's great to read some things in quiet hours, without it feeling like a job to do so.
Kudos again, liber duders.

Tip: Instead of the addon, you can ctrl-click locations, buildings, vehicles and character names (essentially, any renamable link), to open it up another cantr tab, so you can view them in one tab, and tick the check in another. Or any other situation where you'd like to see multiple notes at once, instead of moving between em.

In case you didn't know, Microsoft word allows you to easily remove time stamps from logs even if they're all different.

481^?-^?.^?^?:

When used with the replace all function will remove anything from 4810.00 to 4819.99 (or whatever, you get the idea).

interesting read: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/214204

I think I did switching logs around in Excel, too, some time. Just make sure the timestamp is at the start of the sentence, then you can sort on that.

Gotta be careful though because within the same area of timestamp it'll alphabetize and it might not make sense if a lot of people were talking within the same minute/hour

Yeah, just use the reversal site. It literally takes 30 seconds.

iavatus wrote:Tip: Instead of the addon, you can ctrl-click locations, buildings, vehicles and character names (essentially, any renamable link), to open it up another cantr tab, so you can view them in one tab, and tick the check in another. Or any other situation where you'd like to see multiple notes at once, instead of moving between em.

That isn't the reason I searched for that add-on. Where that add-on shines is when you need to copy a hundred notes because some greedy jerk won't give up their personal envelope (you know, the people that don't mind dying in the middle of nowhere with that envelope they were "going to sort out some time..."). For some reason the game refreshes with every copy you make. Also if you just want to copy all the notes in a location/floor-style library.

Or if you're reading an envelope you can just ctrl+click the view button and open them without having to reload the page every. single. time. It saves thousands of clicks.

The downside is that if you enable the add-on, ctrl+click for "take all" (a feature recently added to Cantr) doesn't work. It's a pretty nice feature because you don't have to click the "ok" confirmation every time.