This is NOT Role Playing

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rklenseth
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This is NOT Role Playing

Postby rklenseth » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:18 am

846-8: $@#^%^& says: "@#$%@, come on, tell me. Look, if their yours... (OOC: copy the prove from your events and post them) If they are not yours, then please put them back. If you do, then there will be no trouble. All you have to do is ask or farm for food, but please don`t just take it...."


I really think stuff like that should be stopped. It happens all the time and has somewhat become an accepted way of proving ownership to some players. I don't think this proper and I think it stretches the Capitial Rule quite a bit. Last time I made a comment regarding this stuff I got hounded in game for it but this is insane. Now they are using the copy and paste method to prove innocence and guilt in game which really seems to me to be improper. This is NOT role playing.
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:20 am

Improper in that they are using copy and paste to prove the innocence and guilt not improper that they are trying to prove innocence or guilt. :wink:
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:28 am

I do this actually, but when i do it, my characters call it a journal or like a "captains log" :D

*shrug*
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Postby Revanael » Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:56 am

And of course, it isnt proof of anything. You just need to know what to type.
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Postby trage » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:38 am

Yeah I know, we had a thief in Karnon Fields who typed that up and then took stuff. We had a long arguement then a few days past he picked upa bunch of stuff and ran, so yes he was a thief, and it is not good roleplaying. I don't like doing it.....
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Postby Xander » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:56 am

I think that was my character Jere, but i'm not sure


btw - who leaves a van loaded with weapons unlocked? Theres a few people in Brunoi Fields who will know what i mean. How stupid
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:12 am

Uhhh >.> i hope you didnt just take the weapons and run. :lol: :lol: id have to call you the worst criminal alive.
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Postby Snake_byte » Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:24 pm

No. you go in the vehicle, leave the weapoins there and drive away with them and go somthing like 5 or 6 towns over and pick up everything and casually walk away. And trade the vehicle. :wink:
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:22 pm

Revanael wrote:And of course, it isnt proof of anything. You just need to know what to type.


Another reason why I think is stretches the Capital Rule and technically is an abuse of the system when you know most players will accept it as proof.

But last time one of my characters tried to arrest someone who tried using it to prove that it was theirs, the players started getting all pissed off and asked me what my beef was with him. I said nothing and that later I choose to ignore comments using that form of the copy and paste method. And then about five other players hounded me for like three days OCCingly that what I did wasn't right and other people have other forms of role playing. I simply told them that it wasn't role playing.
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Postby Anthony Roberts » Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:53 pm

I actually have the same problems as Richard when it comes to this. I'd rather see "You notice [name] finish a project of ### [material] which ends up [on the ground/in their inventory]" - Although that could get screen filling, perhaps as a result, remove the "You see [name] add [resource] to [project]" - because, to me, that serves no purpose but to know that someone applied something to a project. But it could be left alone.

When I finish a project that doesn't end up in my inventory, I usually role play my excuese for picking it up.
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Postby Thomas Pickert » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:26 pm

Serenity (rklenseth) wrote:But last time one of my characters tried to arrest someone who tried using it to prove that it was theirs, the players started getting all pissed off and asked me what my beef was with him. I said nothing and that later I choose to ignore comments using that form of the copy and paste method. And then about five other players hounded me for like three days OCCingly that what I did wasn't right and other people have other forms of role playing. I simply told them that it wasn't role playing.


You did the right thing, for the reasons you brought up yourself. That kind of c/ping is not rping, it doesn't prove anything, even though many players still appear to think it does, and it is sort of a CR breach, since the characters are not really aware of events like "374-2: You finish project...blablabla".
I would not go as far as hunting players down who use that c/ping, but I totally support players who let their characters choose to not accept such 'proof'. It does indeed not have anything to do with roleplay. Even if you would accept that it is a valid comment that a character could 'say', your character can still not be forced to believe it.

In short: Please continue to not accept such 'proof', and if you run into trouble with other players again, drop a brief PM. I will have a word with those misled souls then.
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Postby rklenseth » Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:59 pm

It was a while ago since that happened. I think it was around the time that I brought this same exact thing up on the forum a while back.

I haven't said anything since about it and I still ignore it but this one just really caught my attention yesterday.
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Postby trage » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:27 pm

*sigh* Yes my character ussually just roleplays him getting his project done and takes what it drops.
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Postby nitefyre » Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:44 pm

Neither do I, BUT:

then who the hell out there is doing it?

But I on a slightly different note- as my characters do do this: they may copy the events screen to put into journals, articles and for transcripts. Is there anything wrong with that? Sometimes the date is torn out, and the name's adjusted...but thats about it. I don't plan on wasting a certain amount of time rewriting what cantr has already written.
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Postby jeslange » Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:10 pm

The account of Alicia Scarlet's treason is a good example of how someone can quote exactly what was said without the cheesy "You say" crap. It went like: Alicia Scarlet said aloud: "blah blah blah." Silverfoot said privately to Maily Yumm: "blah blah blah." Joram Traske entered Steward's Cottage and said aloud: "blah blah blah."

It only takes a moment to make the events more RP friendly.

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