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Clan vs. Clan

Postby Báng » Fri May 21, 2004 11:05 pm

The Olip Clans vs. The Mac Gregors!

Who wins, and why?
Individuals? Better Weaponary? More members? etc.


Quillanoi vs. Siom - Same question.
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Postby Pirate Lass » Fri May 21, 2004 11:38 pm

Well I don't really think it's fair to combine both the Stonecutters and Red Knights against the Mac Gregors.

I'll say the Mac Gregor's though if it's 1 on 1 not 2 on 1. Why?

1. I'm very biased
2. Clan members tend to be all a fiercly loyal and aggressive bunch.
3. I know what our arsenal holds

And yes, that's all a bit vague, but it's not like I want to give any stats and numbers out. :twisted:
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Fri May 21, 2004 11:42 pm

my opinion may not count on this cause im very found of the precious Olip Clans being one of the creators an all >.>

But i have to say the Olip Forest Clans would kick the crap out of the mac gregors. I have a character in the red knights and a character in the mac gregors, still have to say the olip clans would kick butt.

Just like lass wrote, i am very biased. Both are very well armed and both of my characters are loyal to their choosen clan. Still have to say Olip Clans.


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Postby Báng » Fri May 21, 2004 11:52 pm

It is fair to combine the Red Knights and Stonecutters...that will become clearer soon enough, if not obvious already after saying that.

I am biased to - Olip Clans all the way.

So many reasons...too many to list. :lol:

And Quillanoi, because I'm biased there too. Tádgh Fitzmaurice and Alyssa Bellino, Dartel Krimentak...lets see that broken down!
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Fri May 21, 2004 11:59 pm

:lol: I hate quillanoi after my character Axhind left the place, could see that broken down easy i say, just might sometime anyway. >.>

Oh and yes i really hate siom as well but i think quillanoi would be smashed by them. I mean look, quill stays to itself fighting the internal battles forever while siom spreads itself withs its many many many deputies, its a large cult and could have been a dangerous one.
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Postby Pirog » Sat May 22, 2004 1:06 am

I also think that the Olip clans would (quite easily) defeat the Mac Gregors. I think they are stronger than even their leaders believe.

Siom would have little problem with Quillanoi.
I was surprised to see how unorganized and weak Quillanoi was when I had a character there about a Cantrian year ago...
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Sat May 22, 2004 1:15 am

someone sees it my way! haha, about time. I said very close to the same thing to Shane about siom and quill on messenger, he still refuses :lol:
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Postby ephiroll » Sat May 22, 2004 1:16 am

I'm not familiar with the clans manpower to even worry about that...but Siom would crush Quillanoi :twisted:
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Postby kroner » Sat May 22, 2004 2:32 am

I'd say the Olip region clans would beat the MacGregors. The Olip clans are really aggressive and probably just as loyal. They have a huge influence over the whole region and are really wide spread. The MacGregors, although well known, seem pretty contained. I think they lose on numbers. Anyway, I don't really know that much about the power of either because I don't have any members. I've only observed. I could be way off on this stuff.

Anyone could beat Quill in a fight. I think even Karnon Forest would stand a chance... Up until recently, Siom probably could have put up a good fight without even sending a force, what with the deputies stationed there.
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Postby g1asswa1ker » Sat May 22, 2004 2:58 am

Mac Gregors would win out. They have more influence in there surrounding areas then somepeople really think. Plus if you really want to call in the reserves they have a big influence into the rangers which are really spread out.
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Sat May 22, 2004 3:10 am

:lol: It is said Olip Clans have over 100 people, not together no but they are all armed with either sabres or crossbows, most carry crowbars whever they go. I still hold that the clans would own mac gregors.
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Postby rklenseth » Sat May 22, 2004 5:07 am

I think it would be a close match between the MacGregors and the Olipifirovash Clans. Not to sure who would win in the end but it would be close in my opinion.

And if you are going to determine this on numbers think about how DoUrden creamed the Alexian Empire's Grand Army. DoUrden was out manned and out gunned 10 to 1 but still one without a lost on their side.

I think a better question would be who would win between the Commonwealth and the Olipifirovash Clans. Both have clashed before but nothing big. I think the Commonwealth would win if the clans were to enter Commonwealth territory just because of how spread out but very good communication there is, and very self sufficient the Commonwealth is from within. Vice versa if the Commonwealth was to enter clans territory.

And Siom would crush Quillanoi in any place but Quillanoi itself. I think Quillanoi would hold its own within Quillanoi. There are some that don't remember Cromwell. Siom failed to take him out but it was in Quillanoi that that so called king met his end. Plus, Quillanoi was able to take out Richard Lenseth, the Siom Commander of the Siom Sheriff Deputies in Quillanoi. I think there would be major losses on Quillanoi's side though if Siom was to try to attack Quillanoi.
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Postby Bran-Muffin » Sat May 22, 2004 5:19 am

*nudges rkl* now your talking about stuff that could actually happen in the future, lets try to keep this down to wont happen, but could :lol: >.>
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Postby Pirog » Sat May 22, 2004 3:19 pm

As far as I have seen the Olip Clans is the mightiest force in the whole game. The problem would just be to organize their forces...
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Postby creepyguyinblack » Sat May 22, 2004 7:33 pm

Yeah, the clans are insanely big. They're like a virus, infecting/recruiting half the people that go through there, then they spread out. They have a good system of transportation for food stuffs and i think are more technologically developed than the mac gregors too.

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