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Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:08 pm
by berserk9779
I cannot make bronze in the small fire pit as suggested here : http://wiki.cantr.net/index.php/Bronze

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:30 am
by Doug R.
I'm fairly certain the ability to make it in the pit was removed after it was made easier to make.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:13 am
by Snickie

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:43 am
by EchoMan
I've updated the wiki page on bronze. Currently it seems you don't need the bellows to make bronze in either smelting furnace, I've asked Piscator to confirm.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:14 am
by Piscator
The bellows were indeed removed. It seemed like an unnecessary restriction.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:00 am
by Ryaga
It doesn't make sense to need bellows, I'm not too knowledgeable in the field, but I'm pretty sure bellows are used to send oxygen through the hot embers, and make them hotter? Copper and tin have much lower melting points than Iron, I think.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:24 am
by Doug R.
That's why they were removed.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:15 am
by Piscator
Well, strictly from a realistic point of view, you'd probably need bellows for both iron and bronze.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:08 pm
by berserk9779
Piscator wrote:Well, strictly from a realistic point of view, you'd probably need bellows for both iron and bronze.


Yes, even for copper, apparently they used bellows like this:

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But on a game perspective, either bellow become much easier to make, a "simple hide bellows" gets introduced, or things stay like they are now...

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:20 pm
by berserk9779

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:22 pm
by Alladinsane
Strange, I always pictured Brad Pitts legs as being more muscular.

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:55 pm
by Piscator
Didn't he have a calf double in Troy?

Re: Cannot make bronze in small fire pit

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:27 am
by berserk9779
Piscator wrote:Didn't he have a calf double in Troy?

:lol: :lol: