Implied vs. Explicit

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Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Ryaga » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:50 am

It's seems there are two major groups of players in the way they view Cantr.

Implied:
The player who views the world of Cantr as implied. These players make assumptions of the world based on the things already present. Theres a ground so there must be a sky. That's a pretty rediculous example but you get my drift.

Explicit:
These players only view what is explicitly defined as existing. The sky doesn't exist because it does not say anywhere that it does exist.

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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby the_antisocial_hermit » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:54 am

I fall on the scale somewhere between, but closer to implied.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Pirate Lass » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:58 am

For the most part I am in the implied camp... mainly because our characters start out in their 20's, and I'm assuming they know the basics at that point.

When it comes to more advanced things like - which shield or weapons are better, which food will heal me and which gives the best nourishment... well I let them figure that out. Either by direct experience, or by asking those around them.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby AlchemicRaker » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:08 am

Implied, and situational. A highly developed town, you can expect people to be more knowledgable overall, especially with machinery, cars, radios, and the like. In a less developed town, baskets are the new cool and you'll have to ask for details about things that would be unknown.

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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby returner » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:28 am

Natso wrote:Implied, and situational. A highly developed town, you can expect people to be more knowledgable overall, especially with machinery, cars, radios, and the like. In a less developed town, baskets are the new cool and you'll have to ask for details about things that would be unknown.

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I'm with Natso here. 'Implied, and situational' best describes the majority of my characters.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Miri » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:19 am

Implied, definitely... explicit ones are driving me nutts :roll:
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby SekoETC » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:33 am

Implied. I think it makes the game better if you assume the world makes sense and for example there's a sky, that it's night sometimes even though you might be active then, that there can be flowers growing at roadside even if the locations nearby don't have any flowers as a resource, that there are leaves in a forest and so on. Although I feel a bit iffy when people rp trees in towns that are nowhere near a forest. Ok if you have coconuts then you might assume there are palm trees, but when it's a place that just mentions stone and potatoes and something else, it comes off as a pretty flat and barren place to me.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Piscator » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:38 am

I think the question is not about what your characters know, but about what the player accepts as real. So the real question is not whether a char knows if there's a sky, but if the player accepts the fact that there is one (as the game mechanics don't mention it).

In my opinion chars are human and the world is earth, unless stated otherwise. There needs to be a default or we had too little information to act on.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby EchoMan » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:45 am

Definitely implied and situational. But I really hate implied rp when some characters say good morning when it's afternoon for my char. Players should really think about what makes sense to others before threading the waters of implication. :)

Also, to me Cantr is not Earth. It's Earth-like with exception only for all the weird things about the game mechanics. And the fact that there is no day or night in game, and that it is roughly doughnut shaped, and not a globe. :)
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Piscator » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:55 am

That falls under "stated otherwise". :wink: I think I could have worded that better.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Doug R. » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:27 am

75% implied, 25% explicit.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Rebma » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:54 am

EchoMan wrote:Definitely implied and situational. But I really hate implied rp when some characters say good morning when it's afternoon for my char.


I tend to think that 0 hour is like midnight, and hour 4 is noon :D(Even though it's not quite on track with my RL time.



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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby SekoETC » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:03 pm

I also think that hour 0 is midnight, although that makes my characters mostly nocturnal/morning people. I'm usually asleep hours 4 and 5 but if I'm not in school, I might stay up at weird times.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Doug R. » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:05 pm

I sleep through 6 and 7.
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Re: Implied vs. Explicit

Postby Miri » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:03 pm

I sleep through late-3 - 4 - early-5. Luckily I don't get another sleep due to work (unless IT security guys feel like trying new things again :roll: )

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