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Just a little question about sailing

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:21 pm
by FiziKx
Lets say you set sail in a random direction. You WILL eventually hit land, right? Or does the water just.. go on... and on... and on...?

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:24 pm
by Piscator
The world is doughnut shaped, so you will reach your original position after a while if you don't hit land in the meantime.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:25 pm
by Saalko
Why you don't use the general support forum?

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:44 pm
by Cdls
Piscator wrote:The world is doughnut shaped, so you will reach your original position after a while if you don't hit land in the meantime.


Lies...if it is donut shaped...you have a very real chance of falling down the hole in the middle....

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:45 pm
by Snake_byte
Cdls wrote:
Piscator wrote:The world is doughnut shaped, so you will reach your original position after a while if you don't hit land in the meantime.


Lies...if it is donut shaped...you have a very real chance of falling down the hole in the middle....


So you can actually sail a larger distance in a straight line, in one direction than in another before coming back to the original position? Depending on which direction you take?

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:49 pm
by Piscator
No. Space is compressed in such a way that the donut has the same circumference anywhere.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:57 pm
by Snake_byte
So, like a Timbit doughnut?:lol:
(a tiny spherical doughnut first invented by Dunken Doughnuts, I believe, later name was changed and offered by TimHortons. In case someone didn't know...)

Because as you describe it, makes me think the ships can, fly?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:47 am
by Piscator
I saw indeed fly a ship over land once. Right over an island.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:53 am
by Snake_byte
:shock: :shock: Peter Pan!?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:10 am
by Rob Maule
Piscator wrote:The world is doughnut shaped, so you will reach your original position after a while if you don't hit land in the meantime.

Kinda like this, then?
Image

Makes you wonder if your characters are living on the outside or in the hole.

Re: Just a little question about sailing

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:56 am
by Rob Maule
FiziKx wrote:Lets say you set sail in a random direction. You WILL eventually hit land, right? Or does the water just.. go on... and on... and on...?

Using an imaginary world atlas and the assumption that the top connects to the bottom and the sides connect, I think it's very possible to never hit land. You'd probably have to start in the middle of the sea before picking your random direction, though. Or you could undock in one direction and start sailing at a 90 degree angle (like undocking east and sailing north). If no other land got in your way, there's a chance you'd end up back to your undock spot and pass right by the original town. I think the hardest way to sail forever would be to follow a path like the orange lines. You would have to start out right on the path between the midpoint of the bottom (or top) of the world and the midpoint of one of the sides. Any bit off and you'd end up traveling in parallel lines until you had eventually hit a coast. But if you got lucky, it might be several times around the world.
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:56 am
by Snake_byte
I believe that picture is a very good description of what Piscator was saying.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:47 am
by NaruShadow
Actually I do believe it's been proven In-Game that the cantr world is spherical. Last year I think it was, a woman sailed around the island dropping notes about how she sailed around the world, from the south end of the island all the way back around the world to the north end of it.

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:53 am
by Snake_byte
Nov, 27

[19:35] <Snakebyte> so, doughnut huh?

[19:40] <Piscator> yes, doughnut

[19:40] <Piscator> well, weird space compressed doughnut

[19:41] <Snakebyte> ...

[19:42] <Snakebyte> Why not say a sphere? lol Just to be different?

[19:45] <Piscator> it's not a sphere, that's why

[19:46] <Snakebyte> So, what's in the middle? A middle that isn't there?

[19:46] <Piscator> well, yes

[19:48] <Snakebyte> so it's an empty space that doesn't exist... *nodding* Is there a purpose to it at all? Progamming even?

[19:53] <Piscator> I think it might be more accurate if you'd imagined Cantr as a square piece of geography with teleporter walls.

[19:56] <Snakebyte> So square but flat so not cubed? Like a sandbox? I've heard that term in game programming...

[20:01] <Piscator> That might be the term. I have no idea. Fact is though that (unlike earth) you can sail to the north indefinitely. there is no pole

[20:02] <Piscator> that's why a doughnut is a better approximation than a sphere

[20:02] <Snakebyte> interesting...

[20:04] <Piscator> Take a map and connect two opposite endges. then connect the other two. Doughnut

[20:04] <Piscator> ;)

[20:06] <Snakebyte> That is messed up! But I get it... What about a pretzel?

[20:09] <Piscator> Hmm... that'd be a little different

[20:10] <Snakebyte> less space?

[20:13] <Piscator> the ends connect with the wrong places. that'd be like cantr with wormholes

[20:14] <Snakebyte> yes... It would. Hmm But I do understand the concept now lol

[20:17] <Piscator> It doesn't work a hundred percent, the inside of the doughnut is narrower than the outside, but it's a nice idea

[20:20] <Snakebyte> so then are we inside or outside of this doughnut?

[20:21] <Snakebyte> like, was this map we folded, folded map facing in or out?

[20:25] <Piscator> good question. we see no moon, we see no stars, and we can only see the world in a couple of pixels distance. hard to tell

[20:25] <Snakebyte> hmmm indeed...

[20:26] <Snakebyte> I love to think lol

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:53 am
by FiziKx
lol. i understand now. Very... interesting.


....WAIT! that sounds liek HALO 'cept land all the way round and with curvy sides.