Cantr II Discussion Forum

I was wonder a few things about strength and fighting, and getting better at them. GUess it includes hunting as well.

If you are using a ranged weapon, are you still increasing your strength? And, is there a set amount that you have to do to advance a skill in fighting and hunting, or get stronger?

Yes, ranged weapons damage are affected by strength. There's no difference between ranged and close-combat weapons in the game.

Alright, I was just wondering. Why not have them under the same catagory, if there isn't a difference?

I think with ranged weapons the damage relies 80% on skill and 20% on strength so most likely when hunting with a bow, your hunting skill develops faster than your strength.

Thanks, I have just been wondering that for a while, and does it take longer to go from skillful to expert then akward to novcie? Samething with strength

Training is related to effort, so if your attempt is 100% you get the most benefit, and the weapon makes no difference, battle axe or feather pillow. The skill levels it's been said are an even scale, but your char can spawn with a skill any place in the range, so some will see improvement faster. All of the weapons have skill/strength weighting which varies quite a lot. The steel rapier has a skill weighting as high as any of the bows (which vary too) while the claymore relies most on strength. These can be found in the wiki entries for each weapon.

Strength and skills are a value between 0 and 10000 (compare with rot for example. You improve an equal amount each hit. The power matters, so a poke does not improve your skill. Also tiredness and damage matters. So bashing 5 people with a waster all at once gets you less than spacing it out.
If you're lucky(?) enough to be spawned with a skill near a cut off point, you see one raised quickly. I infact had that happen, first year or something, went from awkward to novice hunter, between animals in a single hunt.
The levels doesn't really mean anything, you infact do 1 additional damage every x days of hunting/sparring. I have a char that started out as efficient and normal strength. Did about 34 to a horse with a battle axe. Now expert and stronger than average and now does 44.
I assume that is the same thing with gathering. So a person with "low" efficient and "high" novice are very close.

becaome stronger, right now, i'm playing a female, and it say's shes weaker than average, and i personally HATE to see weak women running around, i want her to be strong and be able to kick some major ass, if needed.

Oh dear, one of thesetypes who discards their chars unless they are supermen/women.
You don't need to be strong or a fighter in this game. My most successful char is, after 50 years, still only average strength and a novice fighter.

I think what she(?) meant is that the combination of weakness and being a woman is enforcing stereotypes. There are some very strong women and very weak men in the game. No one sees the truth unless they try to drag you or you hit them, and even then it's affected by the fighting skill. And being physically weak doesn't mean you couldn't be strong in spirit.

SekoETC wrote:... There are some very strong women and very weak men in the game. No one sees the truth unless they try to drag you or you hit them, and even then it's affected by the fighting skill.

I jokingly tried dragging the leader of a town with one of my cutesy female characters and succeeded! It was a suprise at first, but I used it quite often after that until one day the leader got angry at me and locked me in a room (with others helping) and killed me. I really liked that character and hated when that happened. So words to the wise, if you are strong and the leader of the town is weak, keep it a secret.

Yeah, you don't want to reveal the weakness of a town leader, even accidentally. One guy who won my leader character in a duel had to wait for his citizenship for about ten years, and another guy who wrote about her moment of weakness got himself locked away to rot.

Harsh!