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Nothing clever, just goodbye

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:43 pm
by Agar
So, after hanging out in chat last night and listening to Brandon call me a cunt and a douchbag for several hours, I'm trying to remember why I do anything outside the game at all. I've decided that all this stuff outside the game, isn't really worth it.

Maybe I need a thicker skin. All these insults, the flames, much like the ones this thread will produce, all the rudeness, all that is to be expected in any internet game, right? I mean, there's a flame war thread here. Flaming is sanctioned. There's no way to stop it. Even in Chat, Hermi was there, and kicked mtm21 for saying cunt, but didn't kick Brandon for calling me a cunt ... still can't figure that out. It just seems like if you're going to play a game on the internet, you're supposed to be this troll that expects other trolls to come and slap you with thier dicks and ever one is down with that, because that's what everyone is doing, it's the status quo.

I don't think it should be.

In fact, MOST of the people here are nice, and intelligent. I like chatting, it kills time at work, I've made friends there, helped some people out. I might have even done some good! Oh my gosh! How'd that happen?

But, you take twenty people who are mature and polite, just add one guy who's going to curse and rant, makes every statement an attack, targeting a few people, just to get a reaction, and let them go unchecked; well that's going to drive the good people away, at least from chat, for that time.

There's not even going to be any logs of it either. Brandon was right when he was mocking me when I'd thought to send all the abuse to someone here. It won't do any good. We can't ask anyone to do this kind of stuff professionally, or even with fairness. This is a voulenteer staff. There's two bots in chat recording everything, one from the guy that had four accounts working together in the russian area, and the other from the guy that still refuses to admit he was even warned before he was banned, much less knows why he's banned. People can be abusive all they want anywhere, and other people will defend them. It's what's expected.

Anyway. This is to let those few people who might care that I'm leaving the forums know that I'm not coming back to the forums. I've been seperating myself from the forums since I left staff, since that meant I didn't have to come here, and all there is anymore is polish spam on the boards here. I'm sure there's going to be stupid ideas voted on, and things are going to happen that will suck more fun out of the game, and it'll be my own fault for not knowimg about them because I don't check the boards anymore, but them's the breaks.

I do have a Yahoo messenger, so if you want to chat there, you can look me up. I don't expect a lot of responses.

The terrorists have won, and driven someone else away just so that can call people cunts and claim free speech.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:00 pm
by Bran-Muffin
What count is this now.. on you leaving the forums?


Yep, I did call you those names. You know the reason why I called you those names, and if what ive been told is right so will the pd whenever they read their mail.


You see, I was being friendly with this D....... but he chose to be what ive been calling him, what he is. I asked him a question about a character that I thought might be his, because the style is like how ive noticed him to play before with my other characters that ive had around his before.


He decided to email that conversation to the pd, also made a comment about how I would probably do something ooc against that certain character because I asked him about it because it fit his playing style.

He told me that he in fact did play that character, though I was told he lied about that.


There ya have it folks, I was trying to be nice and have a conversation and the guy goes and does something like that. Prick.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:00 pm
by Mykey
Damn dude.... :roll: We are immature and all. But why let him win? :twisted:

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:01 pm
by Doug R.
Sorry to see you pushed this far, Agar. For what it's worth, there's only a few threads here that I even read anymore myself. You're not the only one sick of the BS.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:03 pm
by Doug R.
Hey, Bran, ever consider that maybe he got upset because what characters he plays are none of your F'ing business? Just a thought.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:05 pm
by Bran-Muffin
<Brandon> I am near a character that seems to be very very Agarish.
<Brandon> You might have mentioned him before, dont know though. <Agar> you going to ask me name?
<Brandon> Yep.
<Brandon> If your willing to give a yes or no
<Brandon> an honest one
<Agar> ask away
<Brandon> ******
<Brandon> Is that you or do you know who?
<Agar> It's mine
<Brandon> I thought so


I think that is trying to be friendly, for me it is anyway, some of you might have noticed. Nah, but he has to email that to the PD, saying he thinks I am going to do something ooc against that character.

Doug R. wrote:Hey, Bran, ever consider that maybe he got upset because what characters he plays are none of your F'ing business? Just a thought.


If he thought that Dougo then he could have said.. "No, I dont want to discuss my characters."

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:08 pm
by Black Canyon
:(

I'm really sad to have lost you from the irc, Agar. But I'm glad not to lose you from the game. Hang in there.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:26 pm
by Mykey
I don`t see why people cant just say they do not wish to publicly reveal their characters.

I kind of understand brandons attitude on this, but I admit he expresses his feelings poorly.

Agar, I disagree with most of what you say, but I like having you around, and find your post, and your contribution to irc pleasing. Is it that really big of a deal?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:36 pm
by Doug R.
Well, Mykey, there's obviously a lot more to this story that either are telling us, since Brandon's posted dialog would hardly directly lead to what Agar described.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:40 pm
by Bran-Muffin
No thats not the part that led me to say all of that...

The part that led me onto that is where I found out he had lied about the answer he gave, and emailed you guys because the guy thinks I am going to do something ooc with the character I mentioned, because I asked about him.

Really, what pisses me off is that the guy said something like..

"I wouldn't be surprised if he goes ooc on that guy because of it."

I simply asked if he played the fucking character because it fit his playing style, and I find out he says that... and sends the conversation to the pd! I was trying to be friendly to him and he goes and does an asshole stunt like that. He is everything I named. That just absolutly pisses me off, try to be friendly with someone and the asshole turns to someone else and makes a comment like that. :evil:

Fuck him.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:22 pm
by wichita
I am trying hard to be politically correct here...........


There is past history here for both guys. Agar has a temper, and Brandon likes to push buttons. None of it needs to be aired here.


Agar, lighten up. It's just a game. Most of this is just the ramblings of kids and old idiots refusing to grow up and act like real adults. We all know that. Like Doug, I only read what I have to (or a bit more if I am really depressed at work).


Brandon, it might be wise to hold off asking anybody their characters. You apparently have no idea when you are being pushy/manipulative or at least will continue to insist that we believe you when you say you are not trying to push people.


I will now sit back and wait for the obligatory post telling me what a self-righteous prick I am.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:48 pm
by Bran-Muffin
If you think that

<Brandon> I am near a character that seems to be very very Agarish.
<Brandon> You might have mentioned him before, dont know though. <Agar> you going to ask me name?
<Brandon> Yep.
<Brandon> If your willing to give a yes or no
<Brandon> an honest one
<Agar> ask away
<Brandon> ****
<Brandon> Is that you or do you know who?
<Agar> It's mine
<Brandon> I thought so


is pushy/manipulative... wonder what you would call it when I truly am being pushy/manipulative. Seriously now Wichita... I asked the dude a question and he turned and made that comment and sent the convo to the pd. That just... pissed me off, so I pushed his buttons yeah. There was more to the convo, I didnt get it all saved though we talked about stolen boats after that.

<Agar> :D my newspawn characters have been stealing a lot of boats lately. I wonder if I've got one of yours :)
<Brandon> Well, if you stole The Crayle 0.0 then you did
<Agar> yup. thank you
<Brandon> fucker
<Agar> that character only has 4 skills, nov nov, awk awk,
<Agar> the only thing he is good at is stealing
<Agar> has a saber, warbow, long bow, iron shield
<Agar> 10k of food, and your boat
<Agar> just need the key ... or a screwdriver
<Brandon> or just a file


Then he asked about being able to make a copy of the key from the lock, I asked if he had checked the projects, he said oh yeah there was a key project and then I told him there was a key copy with iron added already. Oh and when I said "fucker" up there, that WAS a joking tone.

My point... guy is an ass for making the comment, sending the convo to the pd. Shows that you cant try and be friendly towards people, because they turn out to be assholes.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:31 pm
by SekoETC
Well he doesn't sound pissed in that part of the conversation so it's prolly something said and misunderstood later that made him see the whole thing in new light. And it's surprising how many people of short temper Cantr has managed to gather. Or maybe it's just that they're more visible than the peaceful ones.

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:01 pm
by tiddy ogg
Maybe that's the irony. It's not Cantr that's the society simulator, it's the forum. *grin*

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:28 pm
by The Sociologist
Why are we blaming forums for irc. Don't use the latter myself so I don't see what all the fuss is about. :?

(Must say won't "pre-emptive PDing" cause far too much work for the poor people if everybody did it all the time?)