Clan vs. Clan

[rklenseth]

That's what the Alexian Empire said.

The problem is that DoUrden is all over the place nowadays. You might think there is only a few of us but I would say that DoUrden is one of the largest groups in all of Cantr spanning many different territories. Since threats of an attack came from Ladvicitavoi much of DoUrden went underground so they can pop up whenever they wanted to, where they want to and how they want to. That's exactly what happened to the Empire's Grand Army.

[rklenseth]

And the thing about DoUrden is that they don't care about ruling people or territories. They really only care about gaining more and more wealth and making sure that all that might be able to take it from them are dead. They are also very protective of themsevles. An attack one of them is attack on them all. So they are pretty much everywhere in that region. They just don't do anything to attract your attention.

[trage]

Hmmm yes but the Alexian Empire didn't have devotion, or at least the devotion it could have. If the whole Karnon Area was threatened we would unite and kill the invaders. Oh and the whole staying underground thing. I don't think that works very well when you have to get your whole group to travel across the sea. If we were to start this now, get approval of the PD, and start making the preparations Karnon would probably win because we would have the time to prepare because you would have to assemble mass boats and get all your people to the designated area. If planned correctly on your side though, you might very well win, but chances are that we would win . That is if it was just an all out invasion vs. stronghold thing.

[rklenseth]

They would only have to send a few people. They wouldn't come int boats marked DoUrden but would come as simple traders and such. They'll get off their boats and begin trading things with people and earning there trust. Then they would start luring the leaders into buildings where they would start slitting their throats and luring the guards off onto the paths where they would ambush them. Then one day they would all simply attack randomly and scurry off in every direction breaking Karnon's forces into groups which make them weaker. Then they would kill them all.

Plus it helps when you have an unlimited supply of healing foods too.

[trage]

*sigh* If you came in boats then your supply would be no match for ours. Trust me. With the way the Fields is harvesting things Karnon Forest will probably have 65k grams of onions in 10 Cantr days. Oh and I am not dumb. I know you would not come with boats marked DoUrden -.-, I am not dumb. The thing is we don't really need to trade for anything we already have what we need. We would just shoo you off. I mean Karnon Forest just needs food which Karnon Fields supplies them with (anyone in game pretty much knows this in Karnon so it is not giving away much), and they supply us with the stuff we need in return. Karnon Forest has helped Karnon rehabilitate and they are pretty self sufficent along with the Fields. So you would not slit our throats, and exactly why would hte guards be lured away . I mean if they steal something they would just be shot dead on the raod first shot, then the people would turn back.

[rklenseth]

Believe what you like but Karnon isn't as strong as you guys like it to made out to be. It is very new as well as very divided. Ladvicitavoi always thought it would be the power in the world. Karnon is at that point now where they believe the same but eventually it will fall to someone or something. Everything has their weakness. Wait until the drugs from Brinks Forest com pouring into Karnon by the boat load. Karnon will be too high to defend themselves. Exactly what the British did to China.

[Mavsfan911]

Bloody hell you're cocky Lenseth.
I'm sure Karnon could put up a fight, but they'd fall apart rather quickly.
KF has a larger arsenal, but they are very divided also. The only thing is all the groups in KF would fight along side each other.

[trage]

Yeah Mavsfan is right, thing is Karnon Fields is not high on itself, and we would bring Karnon Forest back to reality. Trust us .

[kroner]

yeah, obviously dourden is stronger than karnon forest. you're just deluding yourself to think otherwise...

but, due to the nature of the combat system in cantr, even outnumbered and outsupplied groups can win in a fight given the right situation. i can see kf getting really lucky and winning a fight like that, as improbable as it would be. the claims of dourden having better tactics are unlikely. i think most groups are basically on equal footing in this regaurd (except the karnon imperial army )

[Mavsfan911]

Yeah Mavsfan is right, thing is Karnon Fields is not high on itself, and we would bring Karnon Forest back to reality. Trust us .

Im confused... are you comparing KF and Karnon now?
Im pretty sure KF would have their way with Karnon

[trage]

Ummm no I am not.... I didn't even mention Karnon. Where did you get that?

[west]

Karnon Forest has the advantage of having several groups in it on relatively good terms with fairly large supplies of resources. With the addition of many lockable buildings and the cannon fodder of the TBR new folks (:twisted:), they'd stand a fighting chance against any invading force.

Oh, and about the Karnon Army that showed up with Grant:

I have it from a good source that they were all asleep (or pretended to be) for nearly a year, after receiving several orders to disarm or be killed, and not to talk between themselves.

No sympathy for invading armies, and less sympathy for those that pretend to be asleep.

If they WERE asleep, that's even less sympathy, because 6 people don't just fall asleep at the same time. Highly suspicious.

Anyway, that's ancient history

[The Industriallist]

When the DoUrden were under attack by the Lad army, I didn't notice any of this underground business. The Lad troops just made a totally incompetent peicemeal attack against heavily equipped people with healing food and locked buildings. I also heard OOC some mention that a few DoUrden members were doing driveby attacks on bikes.

On the offense it would all go the other way, I think. Throw us in a jail and we would all die (yes, I have a DoUrden 'mercenary'). We couldn't transport vehicals by sea, could we? They just need three or so people awake at once and it would be over.

And West, when you can attack an unlimited number of people in a day, what good is cannon fodder? They just provide more bodies to bury unless they are extraordinarily alert.

[west]

my point was that they're not good for much else.

[trage]

AKA: West is being an @$$.